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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of the food July 8 1947 the Army Air

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Force has announced that applying their

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toughest found and is now in the

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possession of the army the game is

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rigged change the game game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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his work

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two black with your host Jimmy Church on

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the game changer radio network and kgr a

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I need your help to get to the

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you're listening to fade to black with

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jimmy touch on the game changer network

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good evening

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this spoke radio

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masses

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yeah hiyee bill today's Tuesday

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September 4th 2008 James

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116 days left

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and as always we're live

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from a bunker somewhere in the middle of

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is behaved a black

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4k JCR the game changer network of K GRA

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the planet I'm yours Jimmy Church

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what is Co wracking everybody how you do

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all right it's day two of our UFO week

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right here on fade to black and tonight

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our guest

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Stanton Friedman that's it right there

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Stanton Friedman looking forward to this

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you know he lives in I didn't even know

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it existed to be honest with you the

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Atlantic time zone

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it's east of New York my two time zones

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right it's you know it's way out you'll

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be here in a few short minutes Stan

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Freeman is our guest and like all of us

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like all of us Stan Friedman has been

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with us for so long that most of us in

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ufology today are here because of

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Stanton Friedman he's been he's been

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just out there doing it for so long and

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so elegantly and tonight he is our guest

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tomorrow night day three of our UFO week

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here on fade to black is the return of

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Barry Littleton and that will be

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tomorrow night and I'm gonna make a

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couple of comments about that in just a

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bit Thursday is another Fator night with

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open lines all night long and this will

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be UFO phone calls all night okay

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UFO so your encounters your sightings

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your pictures your closing account

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everything that will be a Thursday night

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okay now you can go chase us down over

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an ounce teller calm you can follow us

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on Twitter Facebook YouTube everything

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is Jimmy Church or fade to black and

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everything that you need is over to

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maturity Oh Tom it's really that simple

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at age 80 radio is what you want to do

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right now follow me on twitter @ JT

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radio hashtag f2b is

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the sandbox hey Rita who did we who did

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we give the who won the studio dome

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speakers the boom box who want it I got

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a couple emails about that today and I

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I know somebody did I just I just didn't

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have an answer for it

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so we'll get that up there and there you

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go okay somebody won yeah that's up to

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Rita that's not up to me at J church

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radio the sandbox because that's where

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portable Bluetooth speaker and very nice

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too by the way and okay I think Rita is

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was to me okay where are we sandbox F to

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be on Twitter hashtag F to be and the

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questions or comments hashtag F to be Q

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on Twitter all right

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you can email throughout the show Jimmy

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alright and we also have a banners up

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breaking news today after that

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catastrophic fire that torched in the

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National Museum of Brazil this past

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Sunday destroying many of the

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institution's 20 million artifacts the

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museum's bendigo meteorite displayed in

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the lobby in the entrance which is

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completely turning ashes was left intact

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the meteorite is the largest meteorite

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ever found on Brazilian soil it was

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discovered by a cattle farmer near the

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town of Monte Santo in the Brazilian

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state of Bahia back in 1784 the Bodega

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meteorite weighs about eleven thousand

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six hundred pounds it's more than twice

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the weight of an average car but it's

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all packed into a space rock the size of

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a small motorcycle it's amazing you

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should see the pictures I've got I'll

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bust one out here on Twitter this

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survived the

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fire I'm just gonna do that and it's

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really that simple I'm just going to do

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and check this out

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to look at this and and when you see the

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picture look at the background look at

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this look at that and there it is right

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in the in the lobby in the entrance

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isn't that incredible it survived and

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you got to remember it ain't burning up

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it survived space and Earth's atmosphere

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right when they when they discovered

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this back in 1784 the villagers put it

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on a wooden cart and tried to pull it

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through the jungle and they're on a path

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it the wheels got caught up in some mud

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the cart tipped over the meteorite

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eleven thousand six hundred pounds

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that's it out heavy that was and you see

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the pictures of it too on the cart

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anyway roll down the hill fell into a

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river a creek where it's sat for another

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hundred years the villagers were like

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nah nah we're not moving it again and

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there you go but they finally got it

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through the museum and a hundred years

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ago and there it sits and it survived

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the fire also today following Apple

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Amazon is now the second company in the

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history of the world to be worth over

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one trillion dollars seriously at the

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beginning of this year the company

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Amazon was worth just 580 billion in the

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second quarter the company's net income

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ballooned to 2.5 billion compared to 197

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I don't know what's going on with Amazon

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they seem to be doing everything right

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now of course they deliver packages to

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your door they've got that they've got

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the infrastructure for that and the

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shipping and they've got

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all of that down but they also own most

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of the internet just so you know but

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they really do and cloud computing

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servers storage systems I believe that I

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could be wrong I was just gonna say I

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think like the NSA CIA the IRS all use

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Amazon I could be wrong

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probably not though one share of Amazon

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stock traded today for are you ready for

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2030 $9 per share $2,000 Apple stock you

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know and they were the first one to a

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trillion but Apple stock is trading for

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like two fitty 240 something like that

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Amazon stock 2030 $9 a share absolutely

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insane two companies both in the United

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trillion dollars it's insane to me

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it's an insane not a billion dollar

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company that's a big deal that's a

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thousand million that's that's big a

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trillion a thousand billion that is just

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it's just ginormous money don't forget

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over at Jimmy Church radio calm let's

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get this show cracking happy birthday to

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today

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years old and I'm just gonna say it

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right now okay major pain still makes me

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laugh every time I see it love that

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movie on the state history

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ot D speaking of Apple speaking of

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Amazon on the stay in history in 1998

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20 years ago today just 20 years ago

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today Google was incorporated fader fact

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let's go fader fact if you wanted to

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walk from Finland to North Korea okay

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Finland to North Korea down here by

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Japan and the Philippines Finland up

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here by Santa Claus if you wanted to

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walk from Finland and the North Pole to

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North Korea down here by Japan and South

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Korea right you would only have to walk

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across one country Russia seriously

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that's the fader fact it's a fader of

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fact aren't you glad you are here you

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get you get something like that right

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and you can go and drop that gem at a

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party and you'll take every bet just go

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ahead and do it isn't that an amazing

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fact all right tonight day two of our

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UFO week here on fade to black and our

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guest is Stanton Friedman tomorrow night

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is the return of Barry Littleton

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Thursday is another Fator night open

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lines all night long Jon Rappoport is

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out on what's the word when you are

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working on the road he's on assignment

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our our producer at-large

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editor-at-large is on the road we'll

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hear back and get more next Thursday but

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this Thursday it's going to be your UFO

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phone calls all night long all right

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the fire extinguisher in the background

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is quite ironic don't you think I didn't

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see that but yeah no sprinkler systems I

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think is even more ironic in a museum a

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national museum the museum all right now

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let me hit this

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Ramon coffee keep the tradition going

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because I have often stated many times

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on this show on this show that homo

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sapien sapien us have only been around

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for about 200,000 years that's right

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250 if we stretch it you know a little

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bit and a little give little take

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stretch it but that's it that's it

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this is a fact that is supported by all

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of our professional academic friends and

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there's no reason to go further here and

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now and I'm not going to but and there's

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always a but but the last 5,000 of those

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years have seen a dramatic rise in

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technology and just 150 years ago our

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peak was the steam engine think about

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that for a second 50 years after that it

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was the lightbulb telephone the airplane

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Wright brothers okay go with that 100

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years later and we are about to

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completely destroy our planet with

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pollution and global warming that's

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right

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think about it the rise and fall of a

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species in just two hundred thousand

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years all that work to get here and it's

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going to be brought down in decades now

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let's ask the real question let's say

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that let's say that it all ended let's

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give it a you know 10 years whatever hey

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you know it all ended in 10 years and it

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could be anything it could be anything

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it could be an asteroid nuclear war

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pollution Fukushima maybe some huge

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coronal mass ejection whatever and then

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all of

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us just died right gone poof done fini

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let's imagine that five million years

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from now life on earth gets another

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reboot it's happened so many times

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before right

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just another kickstart and another

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civilization Rises and we'll call this

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next one of five million years Homo

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sapiens sapiens sapiens h/ss 3 right

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would they know then that we today were

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ever here probably not because by that

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time the earth its oceans dirt rocks the

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continents would all have changed they

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would have all been turned over flipped

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and everything that we see today

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around us would be dust pulverized

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pulverized billions of times over see

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these right plastics would they survive

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but they survive right they would right

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no they wouldn't they would not plastic

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bags garbage dumps right now

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nuclear waste now it's all gone any

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microscopic evidence of our technology

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would probably be thousands of feet down

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in the dirt in the rocks buried or miles

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deep under new oceans around the world

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yeah

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you're gonna say to me well Jimmy what

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about the bones we have dinosaur stuff

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and you know right all right what if

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what about the bones well yes sort of

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we have dinosaur stuff but fossils of

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things are extremely rare fossils of us

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very rare and when you think about the

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millions of species over millions of

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years that roamed this planet what we

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have today is is virtually nothing nada

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so the second biggest question is

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actually very simple

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was there a civilization like ours once

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before here on earth millions of years

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ago and it's possible sure what Evans do

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we have we have no evidence none we have

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the same evidence that they would have

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in five million years of us today it's a

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fact when it comes to direct evidence of

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industrial civilization you know things

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like cities and factories and roads the

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geologic record doesn't go back past

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what's called the quanta nary period and

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this is the thing that was 2.6 million

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years ago

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for example the oldest stretch of

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ancient surface lies in the Negev desert

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it's only 1.8 million years old older

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surfaces are mostly visible in cross

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sections visit visible icon on cliffs

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and we've seen that right or rock cuts

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go back much farther than the quaternary

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period and everything has been turned

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over it's been crushed it's been just

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pulverized into nothing go back 50 60

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million years ago and it would be easy

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to miss a civilization like ours that

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lasted for just one hundred to two

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thousand years and only had hi-tech for

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5060 million years ago in that period

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earth passed through the

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paleocene-eocene thermal maximum it's

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called the PETM and during the PETM the

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planet's average temperature climbed as

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high as fifteen degrees Fahrenheit above

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what we have today it was a world almost

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without ice a typical summer

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temperatures at the poles north and

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south reached a balmy 70 degrees and

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we're getting there again slowly but

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it's happening and we may be the cause

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of it what happened 56 million years ago

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I don't know

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I don't but today we're trying to keep

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those temps from getting out of control

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we see it happening we see the changes

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we know this now once you recognize

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through climate change the need to find

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lower impact energy sources less

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pollution the destroying of the planet

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of course garbage and trash and what

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we're doing to our ocean if we start to

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figure all of that out it's less stuff

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we're gonna leave behind for anyone to

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find in the future yeah think about it

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so long after we're gone they may never

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know that we were ever here think about

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it that little thin you're on a cliff

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face and you're going back five million

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years and you happen to and you're going

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okay all right all right all right all

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right all right back up five million

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years do you know what trace in those

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rocks are is gonna be left in in five

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million years it's gonna be about this

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thick because it's only gonna represent

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that

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thin little 5000-year slice of modern

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human history we're gonna be there like

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that it's not gonna be any bones no New

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York City the car that you drive today

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it's going to exist seriously so could

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there have been in the distant past a

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rise and fall of a civilization when

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there predates everything is it possible

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yes how would we know we wouldn't

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there's no way there's no way to know

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and if you if you think about and we

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have tried to find as much evidence of

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all of this that we can the different

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historic events that ended everything

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here on earth it's happened six times

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six times life got restarted it got

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kick-started got rebooted it did things

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think about that we've only been there

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is the the most critical example that I

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need you to think about is the rise and

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fall of all of the great cities and how

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we populated the planet and what we have

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done in 5,000 short years most of

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everything it's been in the last

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thousand all of the major cities since

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the Industrial Revolution steel girders

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right concrete being poured 50 100

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storey buildings that's the last 50

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years

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that's it there is there where there

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would be no evidence of us none think

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about that

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this is fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church and tonight is day two of

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our UFO week here on fade to black

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Stanton Friedman I'm gonna leave you

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with this Stanton Friedman has guided us

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I still have videos that I have been

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carrying around with me for 25 30 years

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of Stanton and that I just studied I

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would just listen to every word that he

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spoke and a few years ago we were about

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five years ago bumped heads a little bit

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on a panel and I was hosting it and I

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Stan and that's what we're gonna do

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tonight it's a very important week here

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on fade to black

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and tonight Stanton Friedman joins us

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy Church and let's get this going

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there we go I'll be back right after

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and only Stanton Friedman on the

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GameChanger network in kg RA the planet

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I'll be right back stay with us

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[Music]

561
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:41,599
welcome back fade to black day two of

562
00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:45,369
our UFO week here on fade to black and

563
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:49,260
tonight our guest is Stanton Friedman

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00:34:56,099 --> 00:34:52,960
nuclear physicist lecturer received his

565
00:34:59,730 --> 00:34:56,109
BSC and MSC degrees in physics from the

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00:35:02,370 --> 00:34:59,740
University of Chicago in 1955 in 1956 he

567
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:02,380
was a point for 14 years as a nuclear

568
00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:06,010
physicist by such companies as GE GM

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00:35:12,029 --> 00:35:09,160
Westinghouse TRW Systems Aerojet General

570
00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:12,039
nucleonic s-- and McDonnell Douglas

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00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:13,900
working in such highly advanced

572
00:35:18,569 --> 00:35:16,150
classified eventually canceled programs

573
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:18,579
as nuclear aircraft a fission and fusion

574
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:20,770
rockets and various compact nuclear

575
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:22,930
power plants for space and terrestrial

576
00:35:29,370 --> 00:35:26,079
applications became interested in UFOs

577
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,380
in 1958 he has appeared on hundreds of

578
00:35:33,809 --> 00:35:31,599
radio and TV programs he is their

579
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:33,819
original civilian investigator of the

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00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:36,250
Roswell incident he has provided written

581
00:35:40,650 --> 00:35:38,170
testimony to congressional hearings

582
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,660
appeared twice at the United Nations has

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00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:42,640
been a pioneer in many aspects of

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00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:44,980
ufology including Roswell majestic 12

585
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:48,130
the Betty Hill Marjorie fish a star map

586
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:51,130
work analysis of the delphos Kansas a

587
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:53,890
physical trace case craft saucers flying

588
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:57,930
saucer tech and challenges to SETI

589
00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:00,880
Stanton has spoken at more you found

590
00:36:05,089 --> 00:36:03,430
symposia than anyone else and we would

591
00:36:07,859 --> 00:36:05,099
like to welcome back to fade to black

592
00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:07,869
Stanton Friedman Stanton good evening

593
00:36:24,779 --> 00:36:22,270
good morning actually how are you New

594
00:36:28,829 --> 00:36:24,789
Brunswick Kansas is a nice place too by

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00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:28,839
the way we you know yeah everybody loves

596
00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:34,750
everybody there yeah good morning sir

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00:36:39,299 --> 00:36:37,180
it's always great to hear your voice

598
00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:39,309
and you know I'm going to get a few

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00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:41,220
things out of the way really quick

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00:36:46,579 --> 00:36:45,400
earlier earlier this year you announced

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00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:46,589
you're in

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00:36:49,759 --> 00:36:48,569
pending it's not quite there yet but

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00:36:51,799 --> 00:36:49,769
your retirement

604
00:36:53,809 --> 00:36:51,809
almost yeah almost it's almost here

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00:36:55,969 --> 00:36:53,819
you're you're on the show tonight so

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00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:55,979
we've we've obviously got some days left

607
00:37:04,670 --> 00:37:00,210
but your impending retirement

608
00:37:10,099 --> 00:37:04,680
what what what made you come up with

609
00:37:10,459 --> 00:37:10,109
that decision well I'm getting old you

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00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:10,469
know

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00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:12,210
when I was a kid I was a big baseball

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00:37:17,059 --> 00:37:14,729
fan and we used to say that when the guy

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00:37:19,759 --> 00:37:17,069
got old he lost a couple steps in a way

614
00:37:23,059 --> 00:37:19,769
to second base yeah well not quite as

615
00:37:27,319 --> 00:37:23,069
fast as it used to be and I'm 84 years

616
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:27,329
old it's time I rested a little bit not

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00:37:33,499 --> 00:37:30,210
on my laurels but at least to take it

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00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:33,509
easy and I'm giving a lecture in South

619
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:36,180
Carolina in a couple weeks

620
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:38,729
the MUFON group there in Columbia South

621
00:37:46,579 --> 00:37:42,420
Carolina I got one more in where am I

622
00:37:49,579 --> 00:37:46,589
going to be in California and you know

623
00:37:52,969 --> 00:37:49,589
it's time how many guys do you know

624
00:37:55,279 --> 00:37:52,979
we're still working a baby for you know

625
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:55,289
you know you broke a lot of hearts with

626
00:38:01,249 --> 00:37:56,910
that announcement it was just like know

627
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,259
you know and we understand I mean 84 you

628
00:38:08,170 --> 00:38:03,839
don't hit us is 84 and and and that

629
00:38:12,890 --> 00:38:08,180
there's that part of it but you have

630
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:12,900
myself included have inspired literally

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00:38:19,459 --> 00:38:15,690
generations going back for so long that

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00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:19,469
we can't imagine you've ology in our

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00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:23,249
community without you well you know I

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00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:25,950
may still do an occasional radio show I

635
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:28,049
only have two more lectures scheduled

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00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:30,690
and you know it's a funny thing and

637
00:38:36,739 --> 00:38:33,150
began in radio and you go back to radio

638
00:38:39,049 --> 00:38:36,749
I grew up in New Jersey and we had loads

639
00:38:42,049 --> 00:38:39,059
of radio stations in New York and that

640
00:38:46,759 --> 00:38:42,059
was before a television so I've always

641
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:46,769
enjoyed doing radio you know TV is nice

642
00:38:53,989 --> 00:38:51,930
and all that sort of stuff but radio you

643
00:38:57,979 --> 00:38:53,999
can relax you know you're worried about

644
00:38:59,549 --> 00:38:57,989
whether your tire straight and I turns

645
00:39:03,359 --> 00:38:59,559
out apparently

646
00:39:05,549 --> 00:39:03,369
have a good voice for radio that is even

647
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:05,559
at my age I'm not scraping the bottom of

648
00:39:10,499 --> 00:39:07,630
the bucket yet you can still understand

649
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,509
me yeah we can well you know there's

650
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:12,880
there's the opportunity for me now to

651
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:15,849
insert a joke but I'm not going to do

652
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:21,910
that and we're the next the next one

653
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:25,119
which is an obvious question but I need

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00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:27,369
to I want to get inside of your head a

655
00:39:37,069 --> 00:39:29,670
little bit tonight if you don't mind

656
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:37,079
19:58 okay it is now 2018 your view of

657
00:39:48,499 --> 00:39:42,209
the UFO question and the et hypothesis

658
00:39:52,739 --> 00:39:48,509
how has it changed from 1958 to 2018

659
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:52,749
well one very important thing that's

660
00:40:00,239 --> 00:39:56,650
happened is that our understanding of

661
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:00,249
the corner the galaxies where we live if

662
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:02,890
you will our place in the universe if

663
00:40:09,689 --> 00:40:07,630
you like has changed enormous Lee you

664
00:40:11,579 --> 00:40:09,699
know when Frank Drake started talking

665
00:40:13,799 --> 00:40:11,589
about listening for signals from outer

666
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:13,809
space because there might be aliens out

667
00:40:20,099 --> 00:40:15,569
there he was talking there might be

668
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:20,109
8,000 mm planets out there that's a lot

669
00:40:25,459 --> 00:40:23,170
of planets and we were still under the

670
00:40:28,019 --> 00:40:25,469
impression we're the only one after all

671
00:40:33,959 --> 00:40:28,029
we're the center of the universe aren't

672
00:40:37,019 --> 00:40:33,969
we you know and now thanks to the Kepler

673
00:40:40,019 --> 00:40:37,029
satellite we haven't changed our view a

674
00:40:41,999 --> 00:40:40,029
little we've changed it enormous ly the

675
00:40:44,999 --> 00:40:42,009
latest numbers from the Kepler satellite

676
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:45,009
which is going out and back and looking

677
00:40:50,729 --> 00:40:48,249
for planets which is a pretty remarkable

678
00:40:53,669 --> 00:40:50,739
thing because we can spot the difference

679
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:53,679
in the light coming to us from a star

680
00:40:57,870 --> 00:40:55,689
when a planet goes in front of it in

681
00:41:00,959 --> 00:40:57,880
other words closer to it and to us by a

682
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:00,969
great deal you know that's like seeing a

683
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:04,689
butterfly across your neighbors car when

684
00:41:10,829 --> 00:41:07,359
it's a mile away that's incredible

685
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:10,839
we now think there's one point six

686
00:41:15,490 --> 00:41:13,430
planets per star

687
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:15,500
now I'm not saying they all have life

688
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:18,590
maybe a my 10% but there's about a

689
00:41:22,570 --> 00:41:20,570
hundred at least a hundred billion stars

690
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:22,580
in the galaxy I haven't been counting

691
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:24,170
them but that's what I'm told sometimes

692
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:26,570
they say 200 billion it doesn't matter

693
00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:30,800
it's a just my number yes ginormous it's

694
00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:33,830
a huge number and you know even if only

695
00:41:43,210 --> 00:41:37,430
10% of life we're talking 10 billion

696
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:43,220
planets out there and that means we also

697
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:45,370
when Bishop Ussher

698
00:41:51,490 --> 00:41:49,490
an expert on sexy started all the be

699
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:51,500
getting in the bumpy getting in the

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00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:57,650
bible and in in the 16th century he

701
00:42:04,930 --> 00:41:59,920
concluded that the world was created in

702
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:04,940
4004 BC Wow a long time ago well him

703
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:09,770
about six zeroes is four billion for you

704
00:42:15,850 --> 00:42:11,750
know it's a lot closer to the right

705
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:15,860
answer and that's changed things

706
00:42:21,730 --> 00:42:20,330
enormous Li doesn't help our ego and now

707
00:42:23,260 --> 00:42:21,740
some people say well it means we're

708
00:42:25,390 --> 00:42:23,270
important otherwise why would aliens

709
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:25,400
come to this place out in the boondocks

710
00:42:30,850 --> 00:42:28,880
you know well we might want to talk

711
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:30,860
about some of the reasons aliens might

712
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:33,110
come here and to listen to the radio

713
00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:35,770
programs of course you sure by doing

714
00:42:41,650 --> 00:42:39,950
that I make one assumption about every

715
00:42:45,130 --> 00:42:41,660
advanced civilization its concerned

716
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,140
about its own survival and security and

717
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,440
one of the early questions the

718
00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:49,760
scientists and any civilization are

719
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:52,070
going to ask is how the heck does the

720
00:43:03,220 --> 00:42:56,570
star produce all that energy enormous

721
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:03,230
amount he realized in the 1920s less

722
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:06,190
than a hundred years ago we thought

723
00:43:15,850 --> 00:43:11,450
there was no one one galaxy and a big

724
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:15,860
star is a mass of burning gas now mr.

725
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:17,510
Hubble after whom the Hubble telescope

726
00:43:24,580 --> 00:43:21,370
was named realized inside looking and

727
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:24,590
monitoring and he checked them gee

728
00:43:36,930 --> 00:43:33,060
but it's hard to believe we didn't even

729
00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:36,940
know there were neutrons until 1932

730
00:43:42,690 --> 00:43:40,750
I know and we didn't know about fishing

731
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:42,700
and fusion the two processes that

732
00:43:48,990 --> 00:43:46,960
produce an enormous amount of energy not

733
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,000
just a little bit more than chemicals

734
00:43:58,050 --> 00:43:52,240
burning a lot more right we didn't know

735
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,060
about them until 1938 and you know III

736
00:44:02,730 --> 00:43:59,920
stressed this because there's an

737
00:44:03,210 --> 00:44:02,740
important outcome of once you say wait a

738
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:03,220
minute

739
00:44:09,210 --> 00:44:04,870
how much energy are we talking about

740
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:09,220
here that we didn't know about well a

741
00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:11,680
big bomb in World War two and I'm old

742
00:44:16,590 --> 00:44:13,390
enough to remember World War there was a

743
00:44:20,850 --> 00:44:16,600
10 ton blockbuster released the energy

744
00:44:25,350 --> 00:44:20,860
of 10 tons of dynamite Wow

745
00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:25,360
our first atomic bomb in 1945 released

746
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:30,150
the energy of 15,000 tons of dynamite

747
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:37,570
our first h-bomb fusion device in 1950

748
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:42,670
to release the energy of 10 million tons

749
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:46,690
of dynamite so that's a pretty big jump

750
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:49,780
from ten to fifteen thousand to ten

751
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:52,000
million and the Russians have tested the

752
00:44:57,690 --> 00:44:53,890
biggest bomb Tsar Bomba

753
00:45:01,980 --> 00:44:57,700
I love the name one bomb one stinking

754
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:01,990
bomb release the energy of 51 million

755
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:06,160
tons of dynamite unbelievable now the

756
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:08,050
reason this is important is not only

757
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,370
because I can beat that kind of the

758
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:11,440
planet if we start using these on each

759
00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:16,770
other but how do you get someplace else

760
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:19,660
you know Magellan well he didn't make it

761
00:45:27,330 --> 00:45:24,490
his ship mated in 1523 or so made it

762
00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:27,340
around the world it only took three

763
00:45:32,940 --> 00:45:30,280
years you know and that was going pretty

764
00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:32,950
quick and then we had people talking

765
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,550
about around the world in 80 days

766
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:38,400
alright still moving

767
00:45:43,019 --> 00:45:40,569
well now

768
00:45:48,929 --> 00:45:43,029
our satellites of the space station just

769
00:45:52,650 --> 00:45:48,939
go overhead ng it takes about a hundred

770
00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:52,660
minutes between 90 and 100 minutes from

771
00:46:00,409 --> 00:45:57,849
three years in 1900 since so when you

772
00:46:02,819 --> 00:46:00,419
ask the question well wait a minute hey

773
00:46:03,949 --> 00:46:02,829
we're gonna get the energy to go to the

774
00:46:06,089 --> 00:46:03,959
stars

775
00:46:08,759 --> 00:46:06,099
fishing and fusion will do it very

776
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:08,769
neatly and if I'd said that a hundred

777
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:14,079
years ago the part I was crazy I so it's

778
00:46:20,779 --> 00:46:18,130
been exciting to me to watch the change

779
00:46:24,449 --> 00:46:20,789
now I don't know how many people have

780
00:46:27,509 --> 00:46:24,459
incorporated that in their thinking have

781
00:46:31,499 --> 00:46:27,519
the churches of the world realize you

782
00:46:34,229 --> 00:46:31,509
know uh and the thing is that wouldn't

783
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:34,239
any civilization be concerned about us

784
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:37,599
we have exploded 2,000 nuclear weapons

785
00:46:42,209 --> 00:46:40,390
on this planet I know some people were

786
00:46:45,769 --> 00:46:42,219
thinking well you mentioned the big

787
00:46:49,380 --> 00:46:45,779
Prussian bomb but you've only dropped

788
00:46:54,839 --> 00:46:49,390
nuclear weapons on two cities only two

789
00:46:57,769 --> 00:46:54,849
cities he says casually but the power to

790
00:47:00,899 --> 00:46:57,779
get to the stars and to threaten others

791
00:47:03,989 --> 00:47:00,909
it's very obvious there even if we don't

792
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:03,999
think about it uh you know it's the

793
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:05,529
articles in the paper wondering about

794
00:47:10,459 --> 00:47:08,049
our aliens concerned about us taking our

795
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,469
brand of friendship hostility out there

796
00:47:17,399 --> 00:47:12,640
you know you're anybody worrying about

797
00:47:21,149 --> 00:47:17,409
that I worry about and so what I'm

798
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:21,159
saying is that we need to take a

799
00:47:27,269 --> 00:47:23,049
different perspective I have a great

800
00:47:30,359 --> 00:47:27,279
grandson he's 11 years old and the world

801
00:47:33,059 --> 00:47:30,369
he's gonna grow up in is very different

802
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:33,069
from the world you mean you're younger

803
00:47:39,479 --> 00:47:35,049
than I am but the world that you and I

804
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:39,489
grew up in in terms of our place and I

805
00:47:45,509 --> 00:47:42,880
get a kick out of the seti cultists I

806
00:47:47,189 --> 00:47:45,519
call them that se ya silly effort to

807
00:47:50,249 --> 00:47:47,199
investigate you know I've said that

808
00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:50,259
before but why is it silly because it

809
00:47:53,890 --> 00:47:52,329
ignores all the evidence that aliens are

810
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:53,900
visiting and says

811
00:47:59,410 --> 00:47:57,410
we should be listening for signals why

812
00:48:00,910 --> 00:47:59,420
whatever in still we have that anybody's

813
00:48:04,650 --> 00:48:00,920
sending signals to us what techniques

814
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:04,660
did they used yeah before World War two

815
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:07,280
and to give an example of how easy it is

816
00:48:15,790 --> 00:48:13,250
to go wrong the Germans were worried

817
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:15,800
whether the British because they saw

818
00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:18,850
were coming Hitler had his plans hooray

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00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:23,630
had radar so they sent a flight over the

820
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:25,670
English Channel listening for REO

821
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:28,960
signals listening for radar signals

822
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:32,960
didn't hear any Soho that's a good thing

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00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:34,850
they know that radar and then they tried

824
00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:36,650
it again this time they straight over

825
00:48:43,210 --> 00:48:38,150
land and it was quite an international

826
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:43,220
incident but they still didn't find any

827
00:48:49,090 --> 00:48:45,410
signals they were looking that their

828
00:48:52,420 --> 00:48:49,100
frequency was off by a factor of 10 the

829
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:52,430
signals were there but they didn't see

830
00:48:58,300 --> 00:48:56,750
them and were misled and you know that's

831
00:49:00,640 --> 00:48:58,310
another thing that I bring to the table

832
00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:00,650
I worked under security for 14 years I

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00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:02,470
know secrets can be kept

834
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:04,970
sometimes big ones and sometimes for a

835
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:09,200
long time and you know we sometimes

836
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:11,090
forget how much money we spend on secret

837
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:12,530
project when I was working on up there

838
00:49:20,770 --> 00:49:16,880
airplanes 1958 a long time ago our

839
00:49:24,610 --> 00:49:20,780
budget that year was 100 million dollars

840
00:49:27,310 --> 00:49:24,620
big time we employed thirty four hundred

841
00:49:29,350 --> 00:49:27,320
people of whom 1,100 were engineers and

842
00:49:31,690 --> 00:49:29,360
scientists we're not talking about six

843
00:49:35,770 --> 00:49:31,700
professors sitting around the table of a

844
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:35,780
few grad students the corona spy

845
00:49:42,940 --> 00:49:40,250
satellite which was developed I get a

846
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:42,950
kick out of the thing because some

847
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:45,610
people may remember the u-2 incident

848
00:49:52,780 --> 00:49:49,690
where our spy planes got shot down oh

849
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:52,790
well the corona was being developed it

850
00:49:57,970 --> 00:49:56,000
was a satellite and it was going to be

851
00:49:59,770 --> 00:49:57,980
able to go around and around and take

852
00:50:01,740 --> 00:49:59,780
pictures down below and I love the way

853
00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:01,750
they were going to get the film back

854
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:04,670
they were going to D orbit the film

855
00:50:09,099 --> 00:50:06,319
canisters

856
00:50:14,499 --> 00:50:09,109
over the Pacific and an airplane would

857
00:50:18,939 --> 00:50:14,509
catch the case I just forgot and the

858
00:50:21,279 --> 00:50:18,949
first 12 launches were failures that

859
00:50:28,259 --> 00:50:21,289
shows you how to budget boy it doesn't

860
00:50:32,140 --> 00:50:28,269
work right the 13th one got more data

861
00:50:34,209 --> 00:50:32,150
about Soviet military installations then

862
00:50:36,909 --> 00:50:34,219
all the YouTube flights that had

863
00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:36,919
preceded that was in the corona spy

864
00:50:41,979 --> 00:50:39,380
satellite and I still get a kick out of

865
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:41,989
the Roswell incident the town nearest to

866
00:50:49,509 --> 00:50:45,410
where it actually happened was Corona oh

867
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:49,519
that's right that's right which i think

868
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,689
is hilarious

869
00:50:56,829 --> 00:50:52,880
that is funny that is that that is real

870
00:50:59,679 --> 00:50:56,839
funny the illustrate keeping secrets you

871
00:51:03,219 --> 00:50:59,689
know right when it was kept secret all

872
00:51:07,809 --> 00:51:03,229
its life thirty years before we revealed

873
00:51:11,609 --> 00:51:07,819
the existence of it and the original the

874
00:51:16,509 --> 00:51:11,619
original views which I'm sure that you

875
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:16,519
held or at least knew about the whole

876
00:51:21,669 --> 00:51:19,130
nuts and bolts metallic flying saucers

877
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:21,679
little et dudes in there you know flying

878
00:51:29,019 --> 00:51:24,079
you know across the universe and getting

879
00:51:32,349 --> 00:51:29,029
here that's okay but looking back we

880
00:51:35,439 --> 00:51:32,359
were pretty innocent and naive on the

881
00:51:38,979 --> 00:51:35,449
entire UFO situation how far we have

882
00:51:43,390 --> 00:51:38,989
come right well I think we've come far

883
00:51:46,059 --> 00:51:43,400
and we've also come far and the use of

884
00:51:48,099 --> 00:51:46,069
nuclear energy we started using those

885
00:51:51,729 --> 00:51:48,109
neutrons we didn't hadn't known anything

886
00:51:54,989 --> 00:51:51,739
about and you know it's kind of

887
00:51:58,779 --> 00:51:54,999
impressive to think that we have

888
00:52:01,299 --> 00:51:58,789
nuclear-powered submarines hey that's

889
00:52:04,109 --> 00:52:01,309
nice they don't need to refuel well it's

890
00:52:07,870 --> 00:52:04,119
more than that they can stay underwater

891
00:52:09,089 --> 00:52:07,880
and go all around the world and nobody

892
00:52:12,579 --> 00:52:09,099
knows where they are

893
00:52:14,409 --> 00:52:12,589
so that means if the other guy bombs us

894
00:52:16,329 --> 00:52:14,419
or sends an intercontinental ballistic

895
00:52:17,250 --> 00:52:16,339
missile and beats up our cities and

896
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:17,260
stuff

897
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:20,230
they can't keep us from retaliating from

898
00:52:26,850 --> 00:52:23,770
a submarine that's underwater and we've

899
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:26,860
had a number of these around the world

900
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:31,680
underwater think about that that's

901
00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:33,910
incredible

902
00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:36,100
uh you know we have aircraft carriers

903
00:52:41,850 --> 00:52:38,470
that I used to say can operate for 18

904
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:41,860
years without refueling if you're a ship

905
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,510
captain that's kind of nice isn't it you

906
00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:45,760
got a monstrous ship over a thousand

907
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:48,070
feet long and you don't need fuel for 18

908
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:50,140
years old I was talking to a nuclear

909
00:52:57,660 --> 00:52:53,410
Navy guy retired and stand it's very

910
00:53:01,920 --> 00:52:57,670
close to 30 now yeah yeah they would be

911
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:01,930
decommissioned before they refuel what

912
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:04,270
that's that's about the size of it so

913
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:08,170
smart guys and new technology and you

914
00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:09,820
know we're talking about the military

915
00:53:13,770 --> 00:53:11,950
technology but I think about fusion

916
00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:13,780
propulsion for deep space travel I was

917
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:17,790
working on a study of that in 1962 a

918
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:20,770
long time ago and of course why would

919
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,090
you do it

920
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:24,400
not only plans to go out there who's

921
00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:27,760
gonna pay the freight and what language

922
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:30,670
is gonna speak Russian or English you

923
00:53:37,290 --> 00:53:33,690
know we haven't solved the problems yet

924
00:53:40,170 --> 00:53:37,300
but it's interesting to look around and

925
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:40,180
see the world as it is today as opposed

926
00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:42,760
to what it was when I read the first

927
00:53:48,290 --> 00:53:46,630
book I read in 1958 now I'm a little

928
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:48,300
slow I didn't get my first lecture until

929
00:53:55,770 --> 00:53:52,960
1967 and here it's more than 700

930
00:53:58,590 --> 00:53:55,780
lectures and you want to be out see the

931
00:54:00,780 --> 00:53:58,600
world be a ufologist I've spoken in 50

932
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:00,790
states ten provinces and 19 other

933
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:04,390
countries you know how many people can

934
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:06,250
say that as part of their normal work a

935
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:10,810
day the answer is none Stan I just

936
00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:12,160
helped you with that right now the

937
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:16,060
answer is none the last one I saw was

938
00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:18,130
Bulgaria incidentally even less no

939
00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:24,430
country over nice place yes would you

940
00:54:32,410 --> 00:54:26,920
believe the Bulgarians

941
00:54:39,610 --> 00:54:32,420
Science Academy sponsored program we're

942
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:39,620
in the world so but you bring up a valid

943
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:41,930
point which I think that we all

944
00:54:49,530 --> 00:54:45,830
recognize today but you just mentioned

945
00:54:53,230 --> 00:54:49,540
your 11 year old grandson he great grand

946
00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:53,240
great-grandson I'm sorry that he has no

947
00:55:01,900 --> 00:54:55,400
why you would have to explain to him

948
00:55:03,820 --> 00:55:01,910
what videocassette is right here's you

949
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:03,830
know think about that right you know the

950
00:55:09,580 --> 00:55:06,890
obvious 8tracks or or the things that

951
00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:09,590
you and I know and love and have a fond

952
00:55:15,970 --> 00:55:13,820
memory of he has zero concept zero none

953
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:15,980
in fact you would just confuse them you

954
00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:19,250
just may have to let it go well that's

955
00:55:24,130 --> 00:55:22,190
right I remember when the computer when

956
00:55:26,170 --> 00:55:24,140
I was at GE my first job as a computer

957
00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:26,180
was in a special building up the road

958
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:29,150
half a mile and had loads of air

959
00:55:35,110 --> 00:55:31,850
conditioning equipment and stuff and I

960
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:35,120
look at the capabilities no no

961
00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:38,090
comparison progress and Friedman's law

962
00:55:42,990 --> 00:55:39,940
progress comes from doing things

963
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:43,000
differently in an unpredictable way

964
00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:47,810
mention slide rules that kids using when

965
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:50,390
I started work in industry and he worked

966
00:55:56,380 --> 00:55:53,570
very well I mean I couldn't do much but

967
00:55:59,770 --> 00:55:56,390
multiply and divide and pick square

968
00:56:04,000 --> 00:55:59,780
roots and engineers and scientists got a

969
00:56:06,340 --> 00:56:04,010
Nobel Prize winners use slide rules well

970
00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:06,350
and today when we come back after the

971
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:08,390
break we're gonna we're gonna talk about

972
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:12,710
today and I want to really understand

973
00:56:18,310 --> 00:56:14,930
where where you are coming from today

974
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,320
because I have night vision goggles

975
00:56:23,410 --> 00:56:20,720
right I have generation three night

976
00:56:24,910 --> 00:56:23,420
vision goggles you know yeah and I'm

977
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:24,920
able to go out and see some pretty

978
00:56:30,610 --> 00:56:27,940
strange things around in the sky that

979
00:56:32,170 --> 00:56:30,620
and I live in Los Angeles as you know

980
00:56:35,350 --> 00:56:32,180
Stanton I'm here in Burbank and we have

981
00:56:37,780 --> 00:56:35,360
25 million people here and you can walk

982
00:56:39,289 --> 00:56:37,790
out and look up in the sky and see

983
00:56:42,349 --> 00:56:39,299
absolutely nothing

984
00:56:43,699 --> 00:56:42,359
but with night vision you you go out and

985
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:43,709
you look up in the night sky and you see

986
00:56:50,749 --> 00:56:46,649
some strange things this is an example

987
00:56:52,819 --> 00:56:50,759
of technology that we have today for the

988
00:56:54,439 --> 00:56:52,829
masses that quite frankly we didn't have

989
00:56:56,509 --> 00:56:54,449
10 years ago 20 years ago for the

990
00:57:00,319 --> 00:56:56,519
average Joe like me to have and

991
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:00,329
certainly going back to 1958 we didn't

992
00:57:08,419 --> 00:57:04,169
have this ability to go and now today we

993
00:57:12,139 --> 00:57:08,429
really understand so much that we just

994
00:57:16,669 --> 00:57:12,149
didn't know just 10 20 30 years ago the

995
00:57:19,759 --> 00:57:16,679
world has indeed changed yes let's take

996
00:57:22,839 --> 00:57:19,769
a minute yes let's take a break right

997
00:57:26,929 --> 00:57:22,849
here and when we come back I want to

998
00:57:29,659 --> 00:57:26,939
talk about the way the the mainstream

999
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:29,669
media is treating the UFO subject today

1000
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:34,079
you were a guest of Larry King's many

1001
00:57:40,759 --> 00:57:38,130
times and today there are other flag

1002
00:57:43,099 --> 00:57:40,769
wavers out there in mainstream media

1003
00:57:44,959 --> 00:57:43,109
myself being one and we will talk about

1004
00:57:47,359 --> 00:57:44,969
all of that when we come back our guest

1005
00:57:48,349 --> 00:57:47,369
tonight on day two of are you a full

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this is Jimmy church and whatever your

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01:02:52,569 --> 01:02:22,679
diet plans are do what I did go too fast

1090
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:54,669
welcome back fade to black I'm Hill

1091
01:03:01,329 --> 01:02:56,569
should be Church on the game changer

1092
01:03:03,969 --> 01:03:01,339
Network in kg ra the planets day two of

1093
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:03,979
our UFO week here on fade to black and

1094
01:03:08,499 --> 01:03:05,529
our guest tonight is Stanton Friedman

1095
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:08,509
tomorrow night Barry Littleton is gonna

1096
01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:11,150
be here and Thursday night open lines

1097
01:03:15,969 --> 01:03:12,799
all night long and I'm going to take

1098
01:03:20,979 --> 01:03:15,979
nothing but UFO phone calls

1099
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:20,989
that's right contact photos videos all

1100
01:03:25,329 --> 01:03:23,599
of that that will go down on Thursday

1101
01:03:32,380 --> 01:03:25,339
night but tonight it's Stanton Friedman

1102
01:03:36,729 --> 01:03:32,390
and Stanton the the the mass media the

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01:03:41,169 --> 01:03:36,739
over the last eight months nine months

1104
01:03:43,779 --> 01:03:41,179
or so since December of 2017 has had a

1105
01:03:46,329 --> 01:03:43,789
little bit of a change well certainly

1106
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:46,339
for those first three months at the

1107
01:03:52,779 --> 01:03:49,609
beginning of 2018 an extraordinary

1108
01:03:56,620 --> 01:03:52,789
amount of coverage and and it's

1109
01:03:58,449 --> 01:03:56,630
continuing today but I want to watch

1110
01:04:03,729 --> 01:03:58,459
your comments on that and let's go back

1111
01:04:06,130 --> 01:04:03,739
also to one of our biggest supporters in

1112
01:04:08,979 --> 01:04:06,140
this community was was Larry King

1113
01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:08,989
bringing it into the mainstream and into

1114
01:04:17,259 --> 01:04:12,859
living rooms across America and he was

1115
01:04:21,489 --> 01:04:17,269
our big flag waver what have you seen

1116
01:04:24,219 --> 01:04:21,499
change between Larry King and the way

1117
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:24,229
things are going on today in mass media

1118
01:04:32,169 --> 01:04:27,910
when it comes to the subject of UFOs

1119
01:04:35,469 --> 01:04:32,179
doesn't seem to be as much focus on

1120
01:04:40,569 --> 01:04:35,479
individuals going big surprisingly on

1121
01:04:43,539 --> 01:04:40,579
big programs like Larry King I'm frankly

1122
01:04:44,650 --> 01:04:43,549
when I'm thinking about is waiting for

1123
01:04:49,749 --> 01:04:44,660
the other shoe to drop

1124
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:49,759
I was so surprised with Lewis Elizondo

1125
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:52,609
and Smith and those other guys and that

1126
01:04:57,099 --> 01:04:54,650
the revelation that there had been a

1127
01:04:59,009 --> 01:04:57,109
secret program spending what 22 million

1128
01:05:02,949 --> 01:04:59,019
dollars that's not a lot of money but

1129
01:05:04,660 --> 01:05:02,959
it's more than anybody thought was being

1130
01:05:06,490 --> 01:05:04,670
spent I they got ruined

1131
01:05:09,970 --> 01:05:06,500
but I've been waiting you know I

1132
01:05:12,910 --> 01:05:09,980
guarantee you every advanced technology

1133
01:05:16,270 --> 01:05:12,920
program I worked on they were paper

1134
01:05:19,809 --> 01:05:16,280
reports when small ones quarterly

1135
01:05:23,799 --> 01:05:19,819
semiannual reports technical reports etc

1136
01:05:28,059 --> 01:05:23,809
etc I'm waiting I have yet to see one

1137
01:05:32,620 --> 01:05:28,069
report out of those that big classified

1138
01:05:37,210 --> 01:05:32,630
study the two stars Academy reports you

1139
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:37,220
know where are the reports you know and

1140
01:05:44,530 --> 01:05:40,510
I I'm waiting for pressure to be applied

1141
01:05:46,660 --> 01:05:44,540
to maybe now that I'll be retired I can

1142
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:46,670
try to figure out how to reach some of

1143
01:05:51,549 --> 01:05:48,530
these people to find out okay where do I

1144
01:05:53,319 --> 01:05:51,559
find out more don't tell me they didn't

1145
01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:53,329
write reports because that's one of the

1146
01:06:00,579 --> 01:05:55,670
rules so different government sponsored

1147
01:06:03,130 --> 01:06:00,589
are ya gotta write reports and so I've

1148
01:06:05,049 --> 01:06:03,140
been waiting for that I was shocked and

1149
01:06:06,609 --> 01:06:05,059
pleased the media seemed to treat it I

1150
01:06:09,819 --> 01:06:06,619
mean after all as a New York Times and

1151
01:06:12,039 --> 01:06:09,829
Washington Post seem to treat it pretty

1152
01:06:15,250 --> 01:06:12,049
decently and those guys Elizondo spoke

1153
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:15,260
at a MUFON symposium and I've read some

1154
01:06:22,510 --> 01:06:18,049
of his stuff and I'm quite impressed

1155
01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:22,520
with the tone and so forth but where is

1156
01:06:28,450 --> 01:06:26,720
the rest of the paper and I'm waiting

1157
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:28,460
for somebody to answer that question or

1158
01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:30,290
anybody's listening you know Tom McCall

1159
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:35,030
me I remember know you bring up a very

1160
01:06:43,809 --> 01:06:39,440
valid point here I remember so many of

1161
01:06:46,289 --> 01:06:43,819
your presentations of documents and it's

1162
01:06:49,809 --> 01:06:46,299
certainly your redacted presentations

1163
01:06:53,380 --> 01:06:49,819
with some of the best and so you know

1164
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:53,390
how to chase down paper you've got I can

1165
01:06:59,890 --> 01:06:56,480
only imagine what is at your home as far

1166
01:07:03,240 --> 01:06:59,900
as documents go so you know that if the

1167
01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:03,250
model yeah if the program existed and

1168
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:05,510
you know I'm not saying that it did or

1169
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:08,000
it didn't I don't I don't know as a fact

1170
01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:11,119
but if it did exist then there must be

1171
01:07:17,730 --> 01:07:13,990
mountains of documents somewhere

1172
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:17,740
yes yes and you know I I know there are

1173
01:07:21,690 --> 01:07:19,270
people who think governments can't keep

1174
01:07:27,140 --> 01:07:21,700
secrets after all I'll guarantee you

1175
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:27,150
that they can I helped keep secrets I'm

1176
01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:29,950
one of the most interesting jobs I had

1177
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:34,329
was to work it was a one-man project and

1178
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:36,490
it was and now I'll give you the crazy

1179
01:07:41,609 --> 01:07:39,250
title analysis and evaluation of fast

1180
01:07:45,059 --> 01:07:41,619
and intermediate reactors for space

1181
01:07:47,130 --> 01:07:45,069
vehicle applications and one important

1182
01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:47,140
word was left out of the title so be it

1183
01:07:58,620 --> 01:07:51,940
I was asked to figure out this goes back

1184
01:08:00,540 --> 01:07:58,630
a long time before 1970 what was the

1185
01:08:03,569 --> 01:08:00,550
Russian capability with regard to using

1186
01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:03,579
nuclear energy in space because there's

1187
01:08:09,089 --> 01:08:06,400
a lot more bang for the buck you know so

1188
01:08:11,339 --> 01:08:09,099
I had two final reports one was

1189
01:08:13,620 --> 01:08:11,349
unclassified and dealt with technology

1190
01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:13,630
papers published by Soviet scientists

1191
01:08:17,099 --> 01:08:15,430
about all aspects of the development of

1192
01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:17,109
nuclear energy for space vehicle

1193
01:08:23,579 --> 01:08:20,049
applications the fast zone the final

1194
01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:23,589
report that I wrote I never had a copy

1195
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:26,920
of it was in the safe at work until the

1196
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:29,890
when you turned it in to the government

1197
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:36,790
you know I and Mike incidentally it may

1198
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:39,850
intrigue some people to know that I had

1199
01:08:44,990 --> 01:08:42,640
correctly predicted that directions were

1200
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:45,000
doing a lot of work and advanced nuclear

1201
01:08:49,650 --> 01:08:48,370
technology and as a bottom line on that

1202
01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:49,660
I should here that the United States

1203
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,500
tested one nuclear reactor in space it

1204
01:09:01,320 --> 01:08:56,080
wasn't a great one it worked the

1205
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:01,330
Russians put up over 30 of them in the

1206
01:09:06,450 --> 01:09:02,890
only time we heard about it in the West

1207
01:09:10,559 --> 01:09:06,460
was when cosmos 954 came down and near

1208
01:09:12,059 --> 01:09:10,569
Great Slave Lake in northern Canada and

1209
01:09:14,999 --> 01:09:12,069
people were worried about the caribou

1210
01:09:16,919 --> 01:09:15,009
being exposed to radiation nobody was

1211
01:09:19,229 --> 01:09:16,929
talking about the fact that son-of-a-gun

1212
01:09:20,820 --> 01:09:19,239
the Russians are way ahead of us in the

1213
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:20,830
development of nuclear energy in space

1214
01:09:23,220 --> 01:09:22,480
that means a lot of energy in a small

1215
01:09:26,939 --> 01:09:23,230
package

1216
01:09:27,570 --> 01:09:26,949
so for sideband radar for all kinds of

1217
01:09:31,020 --> 01:09:27,580
applications

1218
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:31,030
you know but the fact that I don't

1219
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:33,490
wasn't able to keep a copy of my final

1220
01:09:41,790 --> 01:09:38,560
report and you know I've been in places

1221
01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:41,800
that tried to get it many copies

1222
01:09:49,950 --> 01:09:43,630
available in even when you have the

1223
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:49,960
appropriate clearance so reports are a

1224
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:52,810
big thing and that's what I I'd love to

1225
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:56,490
see the media put more attention on

1226
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:00,640
let's go back to Lois Elizondo and those

1227
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:05,920
other guys and okay where do we get the

1228
01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:09,490
reports you guys studied the subject you

1229
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:13,990
spent quite a bit of money what did you

1230
01:10:17,340 --> 01:10:14,850
find

1231
01:10:20,730 --> 01:10:17,350
and it isn't enough to say well we did a

1232
01:10:23,730 --> 01:10:20,740
study and it was concert high at this

1233
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:23,740
point hey guys let's fess up

1234
01:10:31,790 --> 01:10:28,570
it's time and the kicker is what are we

1235
01:10:36,450 --> 01:10:31,800
doing on this planet to be ready as a

1236
01:10:39,090 --> 01:10:36,460
society for when the word finally gets

1237
01:10:41,220 --> 01:10:39,100
out that oh by the way aliens are

1238
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:41,230
visiting and have been for some time and

1239
01:10:46,230 --> 01:10:42,760
they're much more advanced than we are

1240
01:10:48,150 --> 01:10:46,240
and they're paying attention to us and

1241
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:48,160
maybe we should be paying attention to

1242
01:10:57,630 --> 01:10:51,340
them that'll be a big story won't it

1243
01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:57,640
well I imagine this and certainly you

1244
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:00,400
carried your own clearances over the

1245
01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:02,110
years and you know how some of these

1246
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:06,100
projects can operate so I pick Chur this

1247
01:11:15,170 --> 01:11:12,370
danton if there was some division or

1248
01:11:18,750 --> 01:11:15,180
some kind of structure for this program

1249
01:11:21,420 --> 01:11:18,760
I imagine it was at the Pentagon it had

1250
01:11:23,370 --> 01:11:21,430
an office somewhere it had to have been

1251
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:23,380
staffed by somebody

1252
01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:27,070
it wasn't an office of one you know Lois

1253
01:11:34,260 --> 01:11:30,190
Elizondo knows but you know I don't so

1254
01:11:37,770 --> 01:11:34,270
what goes with that email chant you know

1255
01:11:43,229 --> 01:11:37,780
a chain of command

1256
01:11:45,390 --> 01:11:43,239
reports a video documentation and that

1257
01:11:47,299 --> 01:11:45,400
was signed off and there were paychecks

1258
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:47,309
there was all kinds of things that

1259
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:50,530
supported this project

1260
01:11:55,979 --> 01:11:53,289
there must be paperwork somewhere and

1261
01:11:58,290 --> 01:11:55,989
and right now to this day and right

1262
01:12:00,540 --> 01:11:58,300
you know John Greenwald John has been

1263
01:12:03,509 --> 01:12:00,550
trying to and yes he's one of the best

1264
01:12:07,319 --> 01:12:03,519
he's been trying to yes and he's been

1265
01:12:10,919 --> 01:12:07,329
trying to to find anything and we've

1266
01:12:14,669 --> 01:12:10,929
been coming up shooting blanks to this

1267
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:14,679
day well I believe that I know John and

1268
01:12:18,990 --> 01:12:16,510
I consider him the top researcher on

1269
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:19,000
getting the truth the black vaults and

1270
01:12:22,259 --> 01:12:21,250
what a great title for absolutely

1271
01:12:26,970 --> 01:12:22,269
absolutely

1272
01:12:29,870 --> 01:12:26,980
a place and so what I'm saying is I

1273
01:12:35,339 --> 01:12:29,880
think there needs to be a major effort

1274
01:12:39,330 --> 01:12:35,349
somewhere by the media to say okay we

1275
01:12:42,569 --> 01:12:39,340
know that this this work took place we

1276
01:12:43,649 --> 01:12:42,579
know that there had to be reports we

1277
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:43,659
know that they would have been

1278
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:49,570
classified but can we not get some kind

1279
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:52,210
of action get somebody to come forward

1280
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:55,210
who was part of this study maybe a

1281
01:13:00,629 --> 01:12:58,719
deathbed confession you know I don't

1282
01:13:03,390 --> 01:13:00,639
people say well you think somebody kept

1283
01:13:05,459 --> 01:13:03,400
reports out and I'm dubious about that

1284
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:05,469
I'll tell you when I was carrying

1285
01:13:10,109 --> 01:13:07,690
classified material around once I had to

1286
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,119
carry my own slides for a classified

1287
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:12,880
presentation and they sat me down and

1288
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:15,130
read the riot act to me these slides

1289
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:17,679
stay with you none the trunk of the

1290
01:13:24,270 --> 01:13:20,650
rental car when you're off they stay

1291
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:24,280
with you and all kinds of they scare the

1292
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:26,409
hell out of me Frank

1293
01:13:32,609 --> 01:13:30,159
if the plane crashes we don't care about

1294
01:13:34,379 --> 01:13:32,619
you we hear about this classified

1295
01:13:37,020 --> 01:13:34,389
material so we need your detailed

1296
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:37,030
itinerary you know there was a lot of

1297
01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:40,650
that they put the forgotten frankly so

1298
01:13:45,540 --> 01:13:43,150
what I'm thinking is there's gotta be

1299
01:13:49,410 --> 01:13:45,550
some guys out there we're getting even

1300
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:49,420
older than I am who may have some useful

1301
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:51,130
information but

1302
01:13:59,879 --> 01:13:55,090
I think we need to be prepared for that

1303
01:14:03,919 --> 01:13:59,889
point what happens how many churches you

1304
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:03,929
know pardon you yeah are getting ready

1305
01:14:11,310 --> 01:14:08,770
for the public to recognize that if

1306
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:11,320
there is a God he's got a lot bigger

1307
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:17,530
parish than we thought he did I and also

1308
01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:21,850
I think I tried to figure out what

1309
01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:24,820
aliens must think it was and I think

1310
01:14:29,610 --> 01:14:26,710
from their viewpoint we're obviously a

1311
01:14:33,060 --> 01:14:29,620
primitive Society this major activity is

1312
01:14:37,709 --> 01:14:33,070
tribal warfare we can't let them come

1313
01:14:39,930 --> 01:14:37,719
out into space but in other words I mean

1314
01:14:41,790 --> 01:14:39,940
think about it how many countries are

1315
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:41,800
there I think there's over 190 the last

1316
01:14:48,959 --> 01:14:46,090
time I checked hi how much the

1317
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:48,969
classified budget the military budget

1318
01:14:54,629 --> 01:14:51,010
this year I'm planet earth is a trillion

1319
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:54,639
dollars how many kids died of starvation

1320
01:15:00,419 --> 01:14:57,489
last year right right aren't we ashamed

1321
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:00,429
right you know don't we need to wake up

1322
01:15:06,180 --> 01:15:04,719
and say hey it's time for change and I'm

1323
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:06,190
not trying to preach a particular

1324
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:08,530
religion at people or anything like that

1325
01:15:14,189 --> 01:15:12,250
only to wake up and real where people to

1326
01:15:16,350 --> 01:15:14,199
realize we're part of a larger scheme of

1327
01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:16,360
things and we're still pretty ignorant

1328
01:15:22,129 --> 01:15:19,870
and I think and I would like my

1329
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:22,139
great-grandson to grow up knowing that

1330
01:15:26,879 --> 01:15:24,610
aliens are visiting there all over the

1331
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:26,889
place out there some of them and you

1332
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:30,400
know what I convinced myself is you get

1333
01:15:34,620 --> 01:15:32,409
sufficiently advanced to either learn to

1334
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:34,630
live at peace with your neighbors or

1335
01:15:40,379 --> 01:15:38,110
your destroyed you know so I have faith

1336
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:40,389
that these guys have learned to live at

1337
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:42,310
peace it doesn't see only something that

1338
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:46,719
makes sense but you know I'm proud to be

1339
01:15:54,290 --> 01:15:50,170
a nuclear physicist but I'm concerned

1340
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:54,300
that we're not doing enough to use our

1341
01:15:59,450 --> 01:15:56,800
capabilities for the benefit of mankind

1342
01:16:02,729 --> 01:15:59,460
I don't mean just to go to the stars I

1343
01:16:04,730 --> 01:16:02,739
mean to take care of our energy needs to

1344
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:04,740
take care of other s

1345
01:16:10,380 --> 01:16:07,870
yeah feed the planet yeah there's the

1346
01:16:13,170 --> 01:16:10,390
planet good idea yeah there's no

1347
01:16:14,730 --> 01:16:13,180
question about that Stanton and and you

1348
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:14,740
bring up a really good point I don't

1349
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:19,050
want to let this go and which is the

1350
01:16:27,390 --> 01:16:24,640
reports and the the overall flavor out

1351
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:27,400
of Washington and other states around

1352
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:31,840
the world was that if we disclose the

1353
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:36,810
truth about UFOs or contact with et that

1354
01:16:43,770 --> 01:16:40,960
everything is gonna go to hell you know

1355
01:16:45,090 --> 01:16:43,780
the the Vatican world religions are

1356
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:45,100
going to collapse there's going to be

1357
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:48,250
riots in the street Wall Street the

1358
01:16:52,670 --> 01:16:49,840
economic system everything we're going

1359
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:52,680
to go right back to the dark ages and

1360
01:16:58,260 --> 01:16:54,640
after I don't buy it

1361
01:17:00,510 --> 01:16:58,270
right right and after December 2017 with

1362
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:00,520
all the coverage in the mass media every

1363
01:17:05,900 --> 01:17:03,760
news outlet on this planet had it not

1364
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:05,910
only on the front pages but on their

1365
01:17:10,890 --> 01:17:08,890
primetime news programs all around this

1366
01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:10,900
planet and as far as I know Stanton

1367
01:17:17,460 --> 01:17:14,490
nobody jumped off of the building so I

1368
01:17:21,060 --> 01:17:17,470
think we can handle it today and it

1369
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:21,070
wasn't this way in 1958 or 55 or 65 I

1370
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:23,440
understand that but today it's a

1371
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:25,690
different situation why did that

1372
01:17:31,770 --> 01:17:27,910
disclose it yeah why not why not

1373
01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:31,780
disclose what they know well because

1374
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:33,490
they're not ready to say so where do we

1375
01:17:37,410 --> 01:17:34,330
go from here

1376
01:17:39,570 --> 01:17:37,420
now of course there you come up with a

1377
01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:39,580
science fiction plot maybe the aliens

1378
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:44,350
have told us certain things not to do

1379
01:17:52,050 --> 01:17:46,000
who knows maybe we're following

1380
01:17:56,670 --> 01:17:52,060
instructions I don't know but I do know

1381
01:17:59,640 --> 01:17:56,680
that there's a big secret the monster in

1382
01:18:02,580 --> 01:17:59,650
the room what - it's a toll line yeah

1383
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:02,590
the elephant in the room the et element

1384
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:05,890
yeah the et in the room and the kicker

1385
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:10,150
is that you know I'm concerned that more

1386
01:18:16,110 --> 01:18:14,080
people be fed that there be more peace

1387
01:18:17,150 --> 01:18:16,120
and happiness and then we don't be

1388
01:18:19,790 --> 01:18:17,160
spending so

1389
01:18:23,150 --> 01:18:19,800
earn much money on things military I'm

1390
01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:23,160
not anti the Navy or the army or the Air

1391
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:25,470
Force or so forth and now we're talking

1392
01:18:31,540 --> 01:18:27,810
about a space force I don't know whether

1393
01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:31,550
where that fits into this picture but I

1394
01:18:38,420 --> 01:18:36,300
think we're I'm a grown-up darn it I

1395
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:38,430
want to know what's going on and I want

1396
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:40,410
my great-grandson to know what's going

1397
01:18:45,740 --> 01:18:43,710
on and you know for people who were

1398
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:45,750
wondering when was he taught is there

1399
01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:48,890
really any evidence III have tried this

1400
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,080
I've talked in some lectures about five

1401
01:18:57,440 --> 01:18:54,000
large-scale scientific studies about

1402
01:19:00,050 --> 01:18:57,450
UFOs give some details some slides and

1403
01:19:03,380 --> 01:19:00,060
so forth and after each one I ask how

1404
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:03,390
many people here read this and I'm lucky

1405
01:19:09,260 --> 01:19:05,850
if a few percent of read any of the

1406
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:09,270
things so I got a long way to go with

1407
01:19:15,470 --> 01:19:12,330
what we know about no less what we don't

1408
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:15,480
know about which is usually the elephant

1409
01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:19,440
nerve well okay now here's your

1410
01:19:24,170 --> 01:19:21,390
opportunity I'm gonna give you I'm gonna

1411
01:19:28,370 --> 01:19:24,180
give you a softball pitch an underarm

1412
01:19:32,030 --> 01:19:28,380
pitch and you can swing are you sitting

1413
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:32,040
on a document or a piece of knowledge

1414
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:35,520
that you haven't disclosed about the

1415
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:40,050
existence of ETA and UFOs that's an

1416
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:42,530
interesting question I have a document

1417
01:19:54,770 --> 01:19:47,610
that came in the mail and with no return

1418
01:19:58,010 --> 01:19:54,780
address and highly classified and the

1419
01:20:02,960 --> 01:19:58,020
kicker is I have it's 48 pages long so

1420
01:20:05,900 --> 01:20:02,970
it's not two pages long and there's even

1421
01:20:09,250 --> 01:20:05,910
a supposed interview with an alien which

1422
01:20:13,220 --> 01:20:09,260
I found was kind of funny

1423
01:20:14,750 --> 01:20:13,230
and I don't know whether it's legitimate

1424
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:14,760
or not I'm certainly not gonna run

1425
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:16,710
around and drop it on the desk of every

1426
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:19,440
editor in the neighborhood because it

1427
01:20:24,380 --> 01:20:21,090
shouldn't come from me it should come

1428
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:24,390
from government people people who had

1429
01:20:29,089 --> 01:20:27,210
legitimate access besides I don't need

1430
01:20:32,419 --> 01:20:29,099
to know for it anyway

1431
01:20:34,270 --> 01:20:32,429
you know but I'm very careful about how

1432
01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:34,280
I handle it

1433
01:20:40,069 --> 01:20:37,260
would it blow everything up well it

1434
01:20:45,589 --> 01:20:40,079
doesn't give the kind of data I want but

1435
01:20:48,919 --> 01:20:45,599
it certainly makes clear that there was

1436
01:20:52,970 --> 01:20:48,929
a great deal of work done that there

1437
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:52,980
have been bodies live and dead of aliens

1438
01:20:58,399 --> 01:20:55,770
recovered

1439
01:21:01,209 --> 01:20:58,409
and that somebody knows a heck of a lot

1440
01:21:04,370 --> 01:21:01,219
now if the document is legitimate now

1441
01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:04,380
faking a document is easy on the one

1442
01:21:10,189 --> 01:21:07,710
hand the operation majestic 12 we got

1443
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:10,199
some documents back in the 80s and I'd

1444
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:12,960
say 95% of them were fraudulent but

1445
01:21:20,330 --> 01:21:18,690
those are the three three documents they

1446
01:21:23,180 --> 01:21:20,340
were I believe we're legitimate I've

1447
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:23,190
written a book top-secret magic Maj I

1448
01:21:29,689 --> 01:21:26,489
see about it and I think the government

1449
01:21:32,589 --> 01:21:29,699
had operation majestic 12 and they would

1450
01:21:36,919 --> 01:21:32,599
have been changed when the when the

1451
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:36,929
title got out and I wonder how many

1452
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:40,170
documents were produced and how many

1453
01:21:45,500 --> 01:21:43,409
people know something about mj-12 I mean

1454
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:45,510
I realize how old I am and that the

1455
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:47,040
people who knew about these things are

1456
01:21:53,959 --> 01:21:49,130
dying or dead already

1457
01:21:58,760 --> 01:21:53,969
well what how long have you been in

1458
01:22:00,970 --> 01:21:58,770
possession of this 48 page document

1459
01:22:04,250 --> 01:22:00,980
[Music]

1460
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:04,260
Muslim two years less than two years I

1461
01:22:13,070 --> 01:22:06,450
had who else has seen it have you shown

1462
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:13,080
it to Greenwald I don't know I think

1463
01:22:15,710 --> 01:22:14,490
I've talked to him about it but I

1464
01:22:20,150 --> 01:22:15,720
haven't I

1465
01:22:23,690 --> 01:22:20,160
that's a good point and I like I say I

1466
01:22:25,490 --> 01:22:23,700
can't swear it's genuine it's got all

1467
01:22:27,730 --> 01:22:25,500
the right markings and it says some

1468
01:22:30,410 --> 01:22:27,740
interesting things and so forth but

1469
01:22:33,050 --> 01:22:30,420
there's not a lot of smoking guns in the

1470
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:33,060
sense of things that I can take to the

1471
01:22:40,580 --> 01:22:36,930
bank so to speak you know you mentioned

1472
01:22:43,010 --> 01:22:40,590
the documents you know they're blacked

1473
01:22:47,630 --> 01:22:43,020
out documents and whited out documents

1474
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:47,640
and some funny the NSA everybody's

1475
01:22:53,450 --> 01:22:49,800
favorite no such agency that's what NSA

1476
01:22:55,820 --> 01:22:53,460
me we went to court Freedom of

1477
01:22:59,630 --> 01:22:55,830
Information and managed to get them to

1478
01:23:03,470 --> 01:22:59,640
release 156 pages of top-secret ombré

1479
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:03,480
material you know what a dud that was it

1480
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:07,110
was all whited out except for one line

1481
01:23:13,250 --> 01:23:08,730
per page

1482
01:23:15,470 --> 01:23:13,260
I remember that I do I remember the CIA

1483
01:23:20,090 --> 01:23:15,480
we went after them we got hundreds of

1484
01:23:21,980 --> 01:23:20,100
pages of top-secret no secret mostly

1485
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:21,990
that was almost all secret diamonds all

1486
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:26,310
blacked out are you saying are you

1487
01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:28,800
saying they can't find it now if you go

1488
01:23:35,630 --> 01:23:31,560
to the NSA we are haven't been able to

1489
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:35,640
locate the originals are you suggesting

1490
01:23:40,970 --> 01:23:37,920
Stan let me jump in are you suggesting

1491
01:23:46,450 --> 01:23:40,980
that this document that you have is not

1492
01:23:48,860 --> 01:23:46,460
redacted I yeah I'm saying that it isn't

1493
01:23:51,530 --> 01:23:48,870
that doesn't make it legitimate you know

1494
01:23:53,690 --> 01:23:51,540
it doesn't it doesn't but it always

1495
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:53,700
bummed me out when you know the stuff

1496
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:56,010
that's redacted are the names and the

1497
01:24:01,640 --> 01:23:58,560
information of the people that you can

1498
01:24:03,410 --> 01:24:01,650
contact about said document it's the

1499
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:03,420
most important part of it well that

1500
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:06,930
among other things among the NSA

1501
01:24:11,900 --> 01:24:09,840
documents when there's one mind per page

1502
01:24:13,930 --> 01:24:11,910
that you can read and everything else is

1503
01:24:17,060 --> 01:24:13,940
white of that

1504
01:24:18,379 --> 01:24:17,070
it's ludicrous right and I get people

1505
01:24:22,090 --> 01:24:18,389
telling me the government can't keep

1506
01:24:27,010 --> 01:24:22,100
secrets oh really

1507
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:30,770
it's funny so what and of course I don't

1508
01:24:38,330 --> 01:24:35,280
know how many other people I might not

1509
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:38,340
have copies of documents that are exotic

1510
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:40,650
and intriguing or whether there was a

1511
01:24:47,450 --> 01:24:44,719
class and Air Force intelligence groups

1512
01:24:50,300 --> 01:24:47,460
gentlemen your job for the next two

1513
01:24:53,930 --> 01:24:50,310
weeks is to come up with a very

1514
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:53,940
impressive phony classified documents

1515
01:25:05,450 --> 01:24:58,320
and you get retirement points if you do

1516
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:05,460
that successfully right now I've got I'm

1517
01:25:10,129 --> 01:25:07,770
up against a break here a couple of

1518
01:25:14,660 --> 01:25:10,139
couple more questions they'll be quick

1519
01:25:19,459 --> 01:25:14,670
on this document what what's the what's

1520
01:25:20,930 --> 01:25:19,469
the dating of of the said document no

1521
01:25:24,250 --> 01:25:20,940
that's a good question I don't even

1522
01:25:29,180 --> 01:25:24,260
remember it's it's quite a few years ago

1523
01:25:35,209 --> 01:25:29,190
more than 20 I'd say okay so mid-90s

1524
01:25:38,660 --> 01:25:35,219
1990 1998 yeah very interesting and this

1525
01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:38,670
it mentions you should say I'm my email

1526
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:41,100
and and Twitter's just flooded right now

1527
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:44,850
with your comments this interview with

1528
01:25:50,660 --> 01:25:48,690
an alien anything that you can be

1529
01:25:53,390 --> 01:25:50,670
specific I'm sure that we're gonna see

1530
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:53,400
the documents you're gonna present it at

1531
01:26:01,870 --> 01:25:56,850
some point but what can you tell me and

1532
01:26:06,020 --> 01:26:01,880
the audience about this interview well

1533
01:26:10,430 --> 01:26:06,030
it was funny there were comments in it

1534
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:10,440
that were he had a sense of humor about

1535
01:26:21,169 --> 01:26:14,690
you know people how programs went on and

1536
01:26:23,660 --> 01:26:21,179
I was surprised at that and you know I'm

1537
01:26:26,450 --> 01:26:23,670
still puzzled it's got all the right

1538
01:26:31,620 --> 01:26:26,460
markings in what classified document

1539
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:31,630
is it real I can't say yet and now that

1540
01:26:35,250 --> 01:26:33,370
I'm going to be retired I mean I'm

1541
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:35,260
giving a lecture in two weeks and I got

1542
01:26:44,660 --> 01:26:40,290
one more in January I may be trying to

1543
01:26:48,510 --> 01:26:44,670
actually say pursue this matter further

1544
01:26:51,149 --> 01:26:48,520
with appropriate information sent to

1545
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:51,159
appropriate people and you know the

1546
01:26:56,300 --> 01:26:52,770
government is in it because your

1547
01:26:58,740 --> 01:26:56,310
situation they can't accuse you of

1548
01:27:03,450 --> 01:26:58,750
violating security by releasing a

1549
01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:03,460
document unless they can say well it's

1550
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:05,830
real Stan that's why we're gonna bring

1551
01:27:12,140 --> 01:27:07,090
charges against you

1552
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:12,150
right right you know catch-22 situation

1553
01:27:18,899 --> 01:27:16,000
it is and say I'm violating security if

1554
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:18,909
it isn't legitimate document Kenya and

1555
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:21,130
that's that's how they would play it

1556
01:27:28,620 --> 01:27:25,090
well and so now you have I've got I've

1557
01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:28,630
got exactly 90 seconds you've researched

1558
01:27:34,260 --> 01:27:31,960
the mj-12 documents and and thousands of

1559
01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:34,270
other documents you know typefaces you

1560
01:27:38,340 --> 01:27:36,070
know vernacular you know the wording you

1561
01:27:40,290 --> 01:27:38,350
know you know what you're looking for

1562
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:40,300
here the right stamps and the right

1563
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:43,120
signatures and and you know what to look

1564
01:27:48,540 --> 01:27:45,370
for so when you look at this document

1565
01:27:50,250 --> 01:27:48,550
how does it feel to you I mean I would

1566
01:27:53,070 --> 01:27:50,260
think that Staunton you would know out

1567
01:27:57,390 --> 01:27:53,080
of the gate within seconds what you were

1568
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:57,400
holding well I I thought that too but

1569
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,440
I'll tell ya I read it through a couple

1570
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:01,600
times and I would let it sit now for a

1571
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:03,130
little while until I finished getting

1572
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:06,880
retired and I'm gonna be going back to

1573
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:08,890
and I'll be talking to John and some

1574
01:28:11,970 --> 01:28:10,330
other people I know who've had

1575
01:28:14,910 --> 01:28:11,980
clearances and looked at lots of

1576
01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:14,920
documents and see what we can come up

1577
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:19,000
with I would say I'm betting you know a

1578
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:21,610
good baseball player gets a hit 30% of

1579
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:24,310
the time a really good one 40% of the

1580
01:28:31,709 --> 01:28:26,890
time but on something like this you'd

1581
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:31,719
like to be certain you know 80% you

1582
01:28:34,350 --> 01:28:33,730
would think yeah there's no question

1583
01:28:37,140 --> 01:28:34,360
about that

1584
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:37,150
and if it's not you know if it's not you

1585
01:28:44,010 --> 01:28:39,520
know 1947 1952

1586
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:44,020
you know 1962 those eras from the past

1587
01:28:53,930 --> 01:28:46,450
we're now moving into the complete

1588
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:53,940
modern era was there mention of modern

1589
01:29:01,770 --> 01:28:57,730
UFO events I'm specifically thinking of

1590
01:29:07,740 --> 01:29:01,780
maybe Rendlesham or the Phoenix lights

1591
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:07,750
or something from the modern era uh not

1592
01:29:14,370 --> 01:29:11,530
real modern there were no shockers on

1593
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:14,380
that score here's the straight scoop you

1594
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:17,170
know right all right and so I'm

1595
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:20,170
tantalized aunty's I'm frustrated I'm

1596
01:29:26,870 --> 01:29:24,130
anxious and if there's guys in men and

1597
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:26,880
black outside my door tomorrow I'm gonna

1598
01:29:36,210 --> 01:29:32,530
complain I'll take the rap man I'll take

1599
01:29:38,180 --> 01:29:36,220
the rap don't send the documents to me

1600
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:38,190
[Laughter]

1601
01:29:43,380 --> 01:29:40,810
let's take a quick break right here

1602
01:29:45,500 --> 01:29:43,390
Stanton and when we come back we're

1603
01:29:48,660 --> 01:29:45,510
gonna continue this conversation and

1604
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:48,670
obviously I gotta get a little bit more

1605
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,690
into a tip a tip and to the stars

1606
01:29:56,670 --> 01:29:54,880
Academy and we'll do all of that with

1607
01:30:00,030 --> 01:29:56,680
mr. Stanton Friedman

1608
01:30:01,590 --> 01:30:00,040
this is fade to black day two of our UFO

1609
01:30:04,410 --> 01:30:01,600
week right here on the GameChanger

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01:30:05,410 --> 01:30:04,420
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you're listening to Jimmy church on fade

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01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:49,800
welcome back fade to black I'm your host

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01:34:56,420 --> 01:34:52,290
Jimmy Church you can follow me on

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01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:56,430
Twitter at JD oh I think Staten sands

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01:35:02,870 --> 01:34:58,370
got a Twitter account Stanton T Friedman

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01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:02,880
follow him on Twitter too as well I know

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01:35:11,740 --> 01:35:07,410
of there's there's one out there one out

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01:35:16,330 --> 01:35:11,750
there I don't know of a Twitter account

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01:35:22,490 --> 01:35:20,480
well done Stanton there's an impostor

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01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:22,500
running around out there okay ignore

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01:35:27,980 --> 01:35:24,810
what I just said everyone but you can

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01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:27,990
follow me on twitter @jj radio Stanton

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01:35:34,330 --> 01:35:30,960
with with this document that you have

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01:35:39,140 --> 01:35:34,340
just mentioned this 48 page document and

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01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:39,150
1998 or whatever you know 90s is a is is

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01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:43,490
modern enough for me and with the TTS a

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01:35:51,310 --> 01:35:46,890
revelations that were brought forward

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01:35:55,910 --> 01:35:51,320
back in December 2017 does this document

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01:36:00,320 --> 01:35:55,920
support the position of Elizondo and and

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01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:00,330
research in is this a military-type

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01:36:07,820 --> 01:36:05,760
document is this an agency document yeah

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01:36:12,290 --> 01:36:07,830
Defense Intelligence Agency kind of

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01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:12,300
document yes and what can I say it looks

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01:36:19,460 --> 01:36:15,440
good it's going to take a lot more work

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01:36:22,850 --> 01:36:19,470
and you know you need money to travel

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01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:22,860
and go to I've been to 20 archives and I

1724
01:36:27,530 --> 01:36:25,440
enjoy spending time at archives but you

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01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:27,540
got to spend money to go to archives and

1726
01:36:35,780 --> 01:36:31,730
I get a kick out of much of the money

1727
01:36:39,140 --> 01:36:35,790
Bob Bigelow was involved with on this to

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01:36:43,540 --> 01:36:39,150
the Stars Academy and I got Bob's first

1729
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:43,550
research grant a lot of years ago I

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01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:48,330
traveled to New Mexico and did stuff and

1731
01:36:54,140 --> 01:36:52,650
looked at documents and archives and

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01:36:55,349 --> 01:36:54,150
things like that I'm fascinated by

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01:36:59,310 --> 01:36:55,359
archives

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01:37:03,060 --> 01:36:59,320
because I had a clearance partly and so

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01:37:04,679 --> 01:37:03,070
I'm sitting here knowing that there's

1736
01:37:08,459 --> 01:37:04,689
gotta be a ton of stuff but I haven't

1737
01:37:11,099 --> 01:37:08,469
been able to see that nobody I know it

1738
01:37:14,759 --> 01:37:11,109
as far as I know has been able to see

1739
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:14,769
and it's very frustrating and you know I

1740
01:37:21,329 --> 01:37:19,449
I talk about a cosmic Watergate and then

1741
01:37:25,849 --> 01:37:21,339
I realize a lot of kids today don't even

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01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:25,859
know a Watergate way no kidding

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01:37:35,599 --> 01:37:33,010
well it's true and so we're him we have

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01:37:39,959 --> 01:37:35,609
a strange situation we've had peace

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01:37:43,319 --> 01:37:39,969
relative peace in the world I mean

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01:37:46,109 --> 01:37:43,329
they're Russians seem to be playing sort

1747
01:37:49,829 --> 01:37:46,119
of nice nice things are happening in

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01:37:52,169 --> 01:37:49,839
Syria and other places but so and where

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01:37:55,589 --> 01:37:52,179
mr. Trump stands on anything I don't

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01:37:58,979 --> 01:37:55,599
know I mean I'm a sucker for let's get

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01:38:01,199 --> 01:37:58,989
the facts straight and that's not the

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01:38:03,509 --> 01:38:01,209
business mr. Trump is in as far as I can

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01:38:06,060 --> 01:38:03,519
tell I mean I'm still an American so he

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01:38:07,859 --> 01:38:06,070
still my president if you will even

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01:38:09,719 --> 01:38:07,869
though I live in Canada I'm a Canadian

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01:38:15,179 --> 01:38:09,729
as well so I'm complaining about both

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01:38:18,449 --> 01:38:15,189
governments perfectly legally and so

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01:38:21,029 --> 01:38:18,459
we've got puzzles here and I'm hoping

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01:38:23,099 --> 01:38:21,039
both my parents live to be 90 so I

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01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:23,109
figure I got six more years to go so I

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01:38:26,729 --> 01:38:25,119
should be able to solve some kind of

1762
01:38:31,739 --> 01:38:26,739
problem about this stuff in those

1763
01:38:34,709 --> 01:38:31,749
Secours and we shall see and you know if

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01:38:40,679 --> 01:38:34,719
there's anybody listening my website is

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01:38:46,109 --> 01:38:40,689
triple w dot Stanton Friedman God come

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01:38:48,270 --> 01:38:46,119
and I'm reachable ah now I answer my own

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01:38:50,939 --> 01:38:48,280
phone and I live in Fredericton New

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01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:50,949
Brunswick Canada so I'm not hiding from

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01:38:57,659 --> 01:38:53,530
anybody I mean they're I got books out

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01:39:02,060 --> 01:38:57,669
there sure but still if there's anybody

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01:39:05,250 --> 01:39:02,070
out there who would like conversations

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01:39:07,029 --> 01:39:05,260
to be off the record entirely maybe but

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01:39:09,159 --> 01:39:07,039
to give me some clues

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01:39:13,389 --> 01:39:09,169
where I might go to find some other

1775
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:13,399
information I I'd be delighted to hear

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01:39:20,289 --> 01:39:15,530
from Loveman I'll share it with John

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01:39:21,819 --> 01:39:20,299
Greenwald because he has earned it yeah

1778
01:39:27,549 --> 01:39:21,829
I'm going to be calling John tomorrow

1779
01:39:31,149 --> 01:39:27,559
for sure okay so the other part of this

1780
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:31,159
line of questions is you've been waiting

1781
01:39:38,469 --> 01:39:34,010
for a very long time for these moments

1782
01:39:43,029 --> 01:39:38,479
that we have enjoyed since December 2017

1783
01:39:48,639 --> 01:39:43,039
but it kind of fizzled I feel like the

1784
01:39:50,319 --> 01:39:48,649
they took their foot off the gas Harley

1785
01:39:54,250 --> 01:39:50,329
I keep waiting for the other shoe to

1786
01:39:57,039 --> 01:39:54,260
drop as I say and waiting for somebody

1787
01:39:58,359 --> 01:39:57,049
that come forward or with a statement

1788
01:40:00,279 --> 01:39:58,369
from the government said we have these

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01:40:02,799 --> 01:40:00,289
ten documents or we can't release any of

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01:40:05,009 --> 01:40:02,809
them at least as would be positive you

1791
01:40:10,059 --> 01:40:05,019
know what I mean there's something there

1792
01:40:11,859 --> 01:40:10,069
so I find it very frustrating and you

1793
01:40:13,809 --> 01:40:11,869
know it's kind of like think of

1794
01:40:18,250 --> 01:40:13,819
scientists working in certain projects

1795
01:40:22,899 --> 01:40:18,260
where they didn't even know what other

1796
01:40:25,869 --> 01:40:22,909
people were doing I that was related and

1797
01:40:29,409 --> 01:40:25,879
that would have keep pieces of the

1798
01:40:31,899 --> 01:40:29,419
puzzle and you know it isn't enough for

1799
01:40:33,489 --> 01:40:31,909
somebody to tell you something it's like

1800
01:40:37,209 --> 01:40:33,499
it's nice that you can explain how

1801
01:40:39,429 --> 01:40:37,219
nuclear phishing works but we spent over

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01:40:42,549 --> 01:40:39,439
a billion dollars billing and gaseous

1803
01:40:44,859 --> 01:40:42,559
diffusion plant to enrich uranium in

1804
01:40:49,029 --> 01:40:44,869
order to get enough to build the bomb or

1805
01:40:55,389 --> 01:40:51,849
knowing that yeah nuclear fission is

1806
01:40:57,789 --> 01:40:55,399
real where do I get the material don't

1807
01:41:02,289 --> 01:40:57,799
go down to Walmart I'm telling you that

1808
01:41:07,449 --> 01:41:02,299
and so there must be technology about

1809
01:41:09,639 --> 01:41:07,459
which we know nothing and yes we've got

1810
01:41:11,349 --> 01:41:09,649
the nuclear power plants and nuclear

1811
01:41:13,809 --> 01:41:11,359
submarines and if they're aircraft

1812
01:41:18,379 --> 01:41:13,819
carriers and if there are nuclear power

1813
01:41:24,830 --> 01:41:20,629
what do we have to attract the attention

1814
01:41:27,530 --> 01:41:24,840
of the aliens and I certainly would not

1815
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:27,540
expect any sensible aliens to be giving

1816
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:30,570
us advanced technology would you trust

1817
01:41:37,340 --> 01:41:33,210
Earthlings with advanced technology well

1818
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:37,350
you know I'm not so sure I would would

1819
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:38,880
you write about that

1820
01:41:47,330 --> 01:41:44,000
and there's I I have seen things Stanton

1821
01:41:49,250 --> 01:41:47,340
and some of them you know about I don't

1822
01:41:52,939 --> 01:41:49,260
know if you have but we'll get to that

1823
01:41:57,500 --> 01:41:52,949
in a second but when I see something go

1824
01:42:01,790 --> 01:41:57,510
from Terra Firma write some glowing

1825
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:01,800
plasma that that has shape and form to

1826
01:42:08,060 --> 01:42:05,760
it and take five minutes to go from in

1827
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:08,070
front of me up to the stars and

1828
01:42:16,399 --> 01:42:11,850
disappear I have to ask the question is

1829
01:42:19,070 --> 01:42:16,409
that us is it them I don't know but if

1830
01:42:21,140 --> 01:42:19,080
it's alright if it's us it's technology

1831
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:21,150
that they're not disclosing to us and if

1832
01:42:28,129 --> 01:42:25,199
it's them visiting us for whatever those

1833
01:42:31,609 --> 01:42:28,139
reasons are clearly there's evidence of

1834
01:42:35,359 --> 01:42:31,619
both situations and I know that there is

1835
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:35,369
something going on when when when you

1836
01:42:40,459 --> 01:42:37,850
hear something like that coming from me

1837
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:40,469
and this is on videotape and we had

1838
01:42:45,410 --> 01:42:43,170
hundreds of witnesses in fact you were

1839
01:42:47,419 --> 01:42:45,420
there but you were not there that's

1840
01:42:54,729 --> 01:42:47,429
that's another part of the story but

1841
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:54,739
nonetheless the the evidence is clear

1842
01:42:59,780 --> 01:42:57,330
it's right there but what kind of

1843
01:43:04,640 --> 01:42:59,790
propulsion are we talking about here how

1844
01:43:07,729 --> 01:43:04,650
is et getting that type of craft from

1845
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:07,739
there to here or is it simply is it more

1846
01:43:11,140 --> 01:43:09,090
simple than that they're actually not

1847
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:11,150
traveling this kind of distance maybe

1848
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:14,639
maybe it's interdimensional or they're

1849
01:43:19,879 --> 01:43:17,489
folding space well I have a different

1850
01:43:22,220 --> 01:43:19,889
answer for that I think we have two

1851
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:22,230
parts of the problem travel between the

1852
01:43:26,859 --> 01:43:25,110
stars once you're in the atmosphere of a

1853
01:43:30,050 --> 01:43:26,869
planet where there is a high

1854
01:43:31,459 --> 01:43:30,060
gravitational field and we have to worry

1855
01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:31,469
about Greg and he

1856
01:43:37,459 --> 01:43:33,840
you know all those sorts of things and

1857
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:37,469
you mentioned the word plasma I'll bet

1858
01:43:40,930 --> 01:43:39,090
most people don't know that two

1859
01:43:45,169 --> 01:43:40,940
different groups actually operated an

1860
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:45,179
electromagnetic submarine seawater is an

1861
01:43:51,290 --> 01:43:48,570
electrically conducting fluid and one

1862
01:43:54,799 --> 01:43:51,300
was a scientist from Stuart way I met

1863
01:43:58,100 --> 01:43:54,809
him from Westinghouse research labs and

1864
01:44:00,439 --> 01:43:58,110
no moving parts and in submarine was it

1865
01:44:02,419 --> 01:44:00,449
was nine feet long and a work electric

1866
01:44:04,729 --> 01:44:02,429
and magnetic fields at right angles to

1867
01:44:06,919 --> 01:44:04,739
each other and a law of physics says

1868
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:06,929
produce a force at right angles to both

1869
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:09,570
you push against the seat water it

1870
01:44:16,219 --> 01:44:12,570
pushes back by Newton's laws Newton's in

1871
01:44:17,989 --> 01:44:16,229
old was around a long time ago and off

1872
01:44:23,500 --> 01:44:17,999
you go now

1873
01:44:28,459 --> 01:44:23,510
I had a literature search done

1874
01:44:33,620 --> 01:44:28,469
government documents only on the keyword

1875
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:33,630
was magneto aerodynamics and I had like

1876
01:44:42,589 --> 01:44:39,440
nine hundred results which shocked me

1877
01:44:44,689 --> 01:44:42,599
abstracts of mine hundred papers holy

1878
01:44:47,959 --> 01:44:44,699
cows somebody was spending a lot of

1879
01:44:51,310 --> 01:44:47,969
dough so we could go in the atmosphere

1880
01:44:58,790 --> 01:44:51,320
on ice there and all that sort of thing

1881
01:45:01,520 --> 01:44:58,800
and so I'm waiting to see somebody

1882
01:45:02,930 --> 01:45:01,530
decide that yeah gee maybe that's

1883
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:02,940
something good we can do on the other

1884
01:45:07,609 --> 01:45:05,010
hand you have to say the biggest users

1885
01:45:08,779 --> 01:45:07,619
would be military wouldn't it doesn't

1886
01:45:11,209 --> 01:45:08,789
everybody want to have a highly

1887
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:11,219
maneuverable vehicle that can be used to

1888
01:45:16,100 --> 01:45:13,110
drop nuclear weapons on your enemies I

1889
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:16,110
mean that's the way our world works so I

1890
01:45:20,450 --> 01:45:17,760
can understand why there would be

1891
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:20,460
reluctant to pursue technology that

1892
01:45:27,709 --> 01:45:25,280
would have this major goal military

1893
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:27,719
zapped all the airplanes you're on and

1894
01:45:35,239 --> 01:45:30,719
spend a lot of dehl advanced technology

1895
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:35,249
development is not cheap you know

1896
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:38,610
academics think in terms of millions I'm

1897
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:41,250
talking billions

1898
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:46,810
or more and well you know it it doesn't

1899
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:50,800
come easy and you have to justify to

1900
01:46:00,330 --> 01:45:57,280
somebody this to the Stars business

1901
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:00,340
Harry Reid was a big proponent of that

1902
01:46:08,370 --> 01:46:05,890
from the senator from Nevada and he's

1903
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:08,380
proud of having got that job off the

1904
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:10,480
ground but I'm still waiting Harry where

1905
01:46:15,260 --> 01:46:11,530
are the documents

1906
01:46:20,630 --> 01:46:17,670
very frustrating to know that there's

1907
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:20,640
something there and you can't get it

1908
01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:24,970
well how do you how do you propose I

1909
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:29,320
mean with all of your theories and

1910
01:46:33,890 --> 01:46:31,450
daydream and night dream where you're

1911
01:46:36,900 --> 01:46:33,900
trying to figure this this situation out

1912
01:46:38,370 --> 01:46:36,910
how let's let's just go with Alpha

1913
01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:38,380
Centauri four and a half light-years

1914
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:41,350
away right it's it's our closest

1915
01:46:47,130 --> 01:46:45,730
neighbor how would you get now four and

1916
01:46:50,430 --> 01:46:47,140
a half light-years doesn't sound like

1917
01:46:52,530 --> 01:46:50,440
much but it is a vast distance vast

1918
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:52,540
distance and if you're not yes if you're

1919
01:46:56,610 --> 01:46:54,570
not traveling at the speed of light and

1920
01:46:58,830 --> 01:46:56,620
you're just out there cruising around

1921
01:47:01,460 --> 01:46:58,840
it's gonna take you thousands of years

1922
01:47:04,590 --> 01:47:01,470
okay thousands well yeah but that's not

1923
01:47:07,250 --> 01:47:04,600
how you do it how we do things I've

1924
01:47:10,500 --> 01:47:07,260
tried a little experiment with audiences

1925
01:47:12,780 --> 01:47:10,510
multiple choice question how long does

1926
01:47:15,710 --> 01:47:12,790
it take a 1 G acceleration the force of

1927
01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:15,720
gravity right here

1928
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:18,670
you drop a coin that accelerates as it

1929
01:47:21,690 --> 01:47:19,690
moves toward the ground

1930
01:47:23,610 --> 01:47:21,700
how long does it take it 1 g to get

1931
01:47:26,580 --> 01:47:23,620
close to the speed of light a thousand

1932
01:47:28,650 --> 01:47:26,590
years 100 years 10 years or one believe

1933
01:47:33,570 --> 01:47:28,660
it or not many people think it takes a

1934
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:33,580
thousand years and a hundred ten but

1935
01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:37,690
it's one now everyone knows Einstein

1936
01:47:42,810 --> 01:47:39,700
said the person goes people like but

1937
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:42,820
what they tend to neglect but he also

1938
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:45,610
said and has been demonstrated is that

1939
01:47:51,209 --> 01:47:48,570
as you get close to the speed of light

1940
01:47:52,220 --> 01:47:51,219
time slows down for things moving that

1941
01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:52,230
fast

1942
01:47:56,330 --> 01:47:55,110
and you say why is that Stan my only

1943
01:47:56,780 --> 01:47:56,340
answer is that's how God made the

1944
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:56,790
universe

1945
01:48:01,070 --> 01:47:58,320
I can't think you know that's the way

1946
01:48:03,740 --> 01:48:01,080
things are and we've demonstrated it the

1947
01:48:07,990 --> 01:48:03,750
Large Hadron Collider that new jeiza

1948
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:08,000
Larry are over nurse whistling their eye

1949
01:48:23,980 --> 01:48:20,570
accelerates particles to 99.9999 fast

1950
01:48:26,180 --> 01:48:23,990
and so you go out come back marry your

1951
01:48:31,450 --> 01:48:26,190
granddaughters best friend what the hell

1952
01:48:37,610 --> 01:48:34,490
and so people look at me when I say that

1953
01:48:42,590 --> 01:48:37,620
I think look we build these accelerators

1954
01:48:45,970 --> 01:48:42,600
we have particles that go 99.999% of the

1955
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:45,980
speed of light and we just began the

1956
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:52,410
nuclear age if you will look I repeat we

1957
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:54,480
didn't even know there were such things

1958
01:49:02,050 --> 01:48:56,610
as neutrons even though all the elements

1959
01:49:04,190 --> 01:49:02,060
on the planet include them until 1932

1960
01:49:06,830 --> 01:49:04,200
that's not very long ago we've been

1961
01:49:08,480 --> 01:49:06,840
around billion several billion years of

1962
01:49:15,890 --> 01:49:08,490
planets been around I'm not saying we

1963
01:49:19,490 --> 01:49:15,900
have been around nobody I know so I the

1964
01:49:22,300 --> 01:49:19,500
first thing is the laws of physics do

1965
01:49:26,060 --> 01:49:22,310
not prevent going to the stars

1966
01:49:27,950 --> 01:49:26,070
it's not easy and how do you deal in a

1967
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:27,960
world in which like I say you go out and

1968
01:49:35,810 --> 01:49:29,520
come back and marry your granddaughters

1969
01:49:38,060 --> 01:49:35,820
best friend that's kind of weird

1970
01:49:41,630 --> 01:49:38,070
thinking you know what I'm saying yes it

1971
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:41,640
is now the movement in the atmosphere

1972
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:45,570
I'm magneto aerodynamics and this was

1973
01:49:55,010 --> 01:49:48,810
many years ago and I did that study and

1974
01:49:58,190 --> 01:49:55,020
got over 900 references is something we

1975
01:49:59,420 --> 01:49:58,200
know something about and you can get

1976
01:50:04,880 --> 01:49:59,430
around all the problems with high speed

1977
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:04,890
of light heating drag lift radar profile

1978
01:50:08,030 --> 01:50:05,850
all

1979
01:50:10,580 --> 01:50:08,040
these relate to the interaction between

1980
01:50:14,930 --> 01:50:10,590
a vehicle moving in the atmosphere and

1981
01:50:18,710 --> 01:50:14,940
its surroundings the vehicle the plasma

1982
01:50:20,210 --> 01:50:18,720
if you will in and so forth now I'm not

1983
01:50:23,090 --> 01:50:20,220
saying somebody gives me a million

1984
01:50:26,270 --> 01:50:23,100
dollars I'll build one for you because I

1985
01:50:29,390 --> 01:50:26,280
know these things don't come cheap you

1986
01:50:32,180 --> 01:50:29,400
may need new materials and so forth and

1987
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:32,190
you know people like to think we know

1988
01:50:36,290 --> 01:50:34,290
all there is to know and there's nothing

1989
01:50:44,060 --> 01:50:36,300
new to be learned I don't believe it for

1990
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:44,070
a minute and I think that progress comes

1991
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:46,320
from doing things differently in an

1992
01:50:52,780 --> 01:50:49,530
unpredictable way do we need to go

1993
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:52,790
faster in the atmosphere know what for

1994
01:50:58,400 --> 01:50:54,960
shoot down enough somebody else's

1995
01:51:02,570 --> 01:50:58,410
airplane you know we have better things

1996
01:51:06,440 --> 01:51:02,580
to do you know that's a different kind

1997
01:51:10,220 --> 01:51:06,450
of question but the notion that you

1998
01:51:12,050 --> 01:51:10,230
can't get here from there basically is

1999
01:51:14,300 --> 01:51:12,060
wrong because it assumes we know all

2000
01:51:16,190 --> 01:51:14,310
there is to know and we assumed that the

2001
01:51:19,460 --> 01:51:16,200
person who making that question doesn't

2002
01:51:21,770 --> 01:51:19,470
know about advanced technology like I

2003
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:21,780
said I was involved in a study at fusion

2004
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:25,280
which goes on in the stars all the stars

2005
01:51:31,430 --> 01:51:29,850
back in 1962 and it was directed by a

2006
01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:31,440
man who headed the Oak Ridge National

2007
01:51:36,980 --> 01:51:34,070
Laboratory fusion program Tom Luse

2008
01:51:39,500 --> 01:51:36,990
brilliant scientist and didn't have a

2009
01:51:44,300 --> 01:51:39,510
college degree incidentally he got two

2010
01:51:44,980 --> 01:51:44,310
honorary ones but had patents and so

2011
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:44,990
forth

2012
01:51:55,490 --> 01:51:48,650
but that was you know a long time ago

2013
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:55,500
and if I got hundreds of references how

2014
01:52:00,430 --> 01:51:57,210
much more we get today you know if

2015
01:52:03,050 --> 01:52:00,440
you're that access and so forth so on

2016
01:52:04,490 --> 01:52:03,060
the one hand it's a very exciting world

2017
01:52:06,530 --> 01:52:04,500
we live in because I know there are

2018
01:52:07,250 --> 01:52:06,540
things that we don't know about that we

2019
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:07,260
should know about

2020
01:52:13,610 --> 01:52:10,410
you know we're smart enough on the other

2021
01:52:15,500 --> 01:52:13,620
hand where there are bigger questions

2022
01:52:17,570 --> 01:52:15,510
where's the planet going can we support

2023
01:52:19,339 --> 01:52:17,580
more than what are we got seven and a

2024
01:52:23,419 --> 01:52:19,349
half billion people

2025
01:52:25,899 --> 01:52:23,429
ha can we extend life can we deal with

2026
01:52:29,390 --> 01:52:25,909
cancer can we you know there are some

2027
01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:29,400
practical sorts of things out there what

2028
01:52:35,709 --> 01:52:32,159
worries me is the bad guys getting

2029
01:52:38,930 --> 01:52:35,719
access to the advanced technology that

2030
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:38,940
that is the big fear there's there's no

2031
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:40,770
question about that and we're gonna head

2032
01:52:45,950 --> 01:52:44,010
towards a break and so be I want to get

2033
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:45,960
a couple of questions in while I have

2034
01:52:50,180 --> 01:52:48,449
this opportunity and then and when we

2035
01:52:52,310 --> 01:52:50,190
come back after the break they'll stand

2036
01:52:54,500 --> 01:52:52,320
and we're gonna have fun I'm gonna take

2037
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:54,510
you completely out of your comfort zone

2038
01:53:00,020 --> 01:52:57,360
but before we get there and I look

2039
01:53:03,470 --> 01:53:00,030
forward to this oh I want to tell

2040
01:53:06,379 --> 01:53:03,480
everybody the years ago standing

2041
01:53:09,530 --> 01:53:06,389
probably doesn't remember this but I run

2042
01:53:13,399 --> 01:53:09,540
into Stanton we're up in Big Bear for

2043
01:53:15,950 --> 01:53:13,409
this conference and and Rita and I pull

2044
01:53:18,379 --> 01:53:15,960
in and who do we run into first and and

2045
01:53:21,649 --> 01:53:18,389
it's it's like 10 o'clock at night and I

2046
01:53:24,140 --> 01:53:21,659
tried I invited Stanton over to the bar

2047
01:53:29,180 --> 01:53:24,150
and you went with us and and we sat down

2048
01:53:32,330 --> 01:53:29,190
and I tried I tried to buy you a martini

2049
01:53:34,399 --> 01:53:32,340
or two and I couldn't my intention was

2050
01:53:35,959 --> 01:53:34,409
back then Stanton was to get you out of

2051
01:53:38,330 --> 01:53:35,969
your comfort zone I wanted to pick your

2052
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:38,340
brain you would have you would have

2053
01:53:42,310 --> 01:53:40,530
nothing of it but you did hang out with

2054
01:53:47,660 --> 01:53:42,320
this till the wee hours of the morning

2055
01:53:49,370 --> 01:53:47,670
but my plan was thwarted but and when we

2056
01:53:51,229 --> 01:53:49,380
come back after the break no martinis

2057
01:53:54,500 --> 01:53:51,239
but I will get you out of your comfort

2058
01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:54,510
zone before we get to the break Jaime

2059
01:54:00,979 --> 01:53:56,639
shandur a what was the last time you

2060
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:00,989
talked to him oh boy years and years and

2061
01:54:08,990 --> 01:54:05,610
years ago really I can't even tell you

2062
01:54:10,490 --> 01:54:09,000
what it was I tried I haven't talked to

2063
01:54:11,209 --> 01:54:10,500
Bill Moore either that was my next

2064
01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:11,219
question

2065
01:54:16,370 --> 01:54:13,679
you read my mind I've tried to chase

2066
01:54:18,379 --> 01:54:16,380
down Jamie and I would think that who

2067
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:18,389
would be in our neighborhood here in

2068
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:20,250
Burbank you know being a television

2069
01:54:26,209 --> 01:54:23,250
producer and I know that's where he was

2070
01:54:28,339 --> 01:54:26,219
last but I've been unsuccessful in those

2071
01:54:30,359 --> 01:54:28,349
attempts and the same thing with the

2072
01:54:33,029 --> 01:54:30,369
William Moore

2073
01:54:35,129 --> 01:54:33,039
after he was in Pittsburgh last I heard

2074
01:54:39,899 --> 01:54:35,139
that's what I heard two years and years

2075
01:54:44,580 --> 01:54:39,909
ago so I'm sorry what can I say yeah I

2076
01:54:47,459 --> 01:54:44,590
know life goes on and after after he ran

2077
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:47,469
out were you there for the famous speech

2078
01:54:53,790 --> 01:54:51,280
in Las Vegas at the MUFON symposium yes

2079
01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:53,800
and I was very upset about it I can only

2080
01:55:04,830 --> 01:54:56,169
imagine was that the last time the two

2081
01:55:06,929 --> 01:55:04,840
saw em I don't know I might very well

2082
01:55:10,589 --> 01:55:06,939
have been I know we haven't haven't had

2083
01:55:18,949 --> 01:55:10,599
serious contact since then Yeah right so

2084
01:55:27,149 --> 01:55:23,449
they went well we had a Richard Doty

2085
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:27,159
called in by the way to this program

2086
01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:29,050
about six months ago

2087
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:31,360
out of the blue just you know I'm open

2088
01:55:37,169 --> 01:55:34,090
lines on an open line Thursday and and

2089
01:55:39,330 --> 01:55:37,179
and dodi decides to call in I ended up

2090
01:55:41,759 --> 01:55:39,340
having him on the program I didn't want

2091
01:55:43,709 --> 01:55:41,769
to let him go I had him on for about 90

2092
01:55:49,049 --> 01:55:43,719
minutes and he said something very

2093
01:55:51,209 --> 01:55:49,059
interesting during this conversation by

2094
01:55:53,879 --> 01:55:51,219
the way Stan I've never invited him on

2095
01:55:58,770 --> 01:55:53,889
the program I'm he's somebody that I

2096
01:56:00,779 --> 01:55:58,780
don't agree with but he did call in so I

2097
01:56:04,259 --> 01:56:00,789
took the opportunity to ask him some

2098
01:56:08,639 --> 01:56:04,269
questions and he made a statement he

2099
01:56:13,709 --> 01:56:08,649
said that there were two the number is

2100
01:56:16,729 --> 01:56:13,719
two that there were two a list speakers

2101
01:56:22,649 --> 01:56:16,739
on the circuit today at UFO conferences

2102
01:56:25,859 --> 01:56:22,659
that were informants disinfo agents and

2103
01:56:27,779 --> 01:56:25,869
he knew them personally does that kind

2104
01:56:30,629 --> 01:56:27,789
of comment coming from Dodie who we

2105
01:56:35,459 --> 01:56:30,639
can't really trust but does that comment

2106
01:56:39,089 --> 01:56:35,469
from Dodie surprise you yes that he

2107
01:56:43,620 --> 01:56:39,099
would say so in general nothing from him

2108
01:56:50,970 --> 01:56:47,490
but yeah I don't know what to make that

2109
01:56:52,970 --> 01:56:50,980
in Saudi and you know I didn't really

2110
01:56:56,010 --> 01:56:52,980
have much contact with them bill had

2111
01:57:01,110 --> 01:56:56,020
contact with them and no more right

2112
01:57:04,140 --> 01:57:01,120
Jamie but he's one of you know you could

2113
01:57:07,890 --> 01:57:04,150
draw up a list of strings aspects of

2114
01:57:12,510 --> 01:57:07,900
ufology the rule of Richard Doty is

2115
01:57:15,540 --> 01:57:12,520
certainly one of them and we need more

2116
01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:15,550
historical kind of stuff going on and

2117
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:20,080
and that's why I I can't tell you how

2118
01:57:25,379 --> 01:57:22,090
frustrating it is to know that there had

2119
01:57:26,570 --> 01:57:25,389
to be loads of documents written under

2120
01:57:29,189 --> 01:57:26,580
this to the stars

2121
01:57:31,970 --> 01:57:29,199
whatever was before that the advanced

2122
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:31,980
threat assessment program

2123
01:57:42,450 --> 01:57:34,810
there's gotta be paper and I would like

2124
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:42,460
to read it d'arnot yeah I know yeah when

2125
01:57:48,750 --> 01:57:47,290
when Richard came on and and I I asked

2126
01:57:50,580 --> 01:57:48,760
him the tough questions there was no

2127
01:57:53,250 --> 01:57:50,590
doubt about that I'm not going to go

2128
01:57:55,379 --> 01:57:53,260
through all of that now but I asked him

2129
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:55,389
the tough questions and out of

2130
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:00,159
everything from that conversation it was

2131
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:04,330
that you know that there were the two to

2132
01:58:11,930 --> 01:58:06,610
two speakers on the circuit right now

2133
01:58:14,070 --> 01:58:11,940
that he knows to be disinfo agents today

2134
01:58:18,990 --> 01:58:14,080
I've got about a minute left

2135
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:19,000
why would the any agency be interested

2136
01:58:26,399 --> 01:58:23,370
in new policy and spreading disinfo or

2137
01:58:28,919 --> 01:58:26,409
collecting information from inside of

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the UFO community I would think that

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they have access to whatever they need

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and what would what interest would be

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served in spreading disinformation

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inside of the UFO community today and

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and I go back you just brought up to the

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stars and they're you know they've got

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ex-cia on staff and that but that I I

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almost get a little bit uncomfortable

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and cringe at that thought

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well I do too I mean I respect security

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having worked under it and suffered

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there are purposes it serves and there

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have been times in the past 60 years

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that I've been around open in my mouth

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but I worried about people the wrong

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people getting access to powerful

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information so you know I don't know

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where that leaves us what there is no

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book of rights

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what's mankind you know what are we

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entitled to know and I don't know I'm

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not a dictator and have no desire to be

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one and I'm concerned about the future

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of the planet but you know on a personal

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letter level as I say I have a great

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grandson and how's the world what's it

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going to be like and I I'd look at those

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mm uh clear weapons we have exploded and

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who's going to be joining the nuclear

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Club and can we trust them and you know

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questions like that those things scare

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me you know suicide bombing is not an

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imaginary concept it's happened there

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have been people who do that I've done

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that so I don't want the bad guys to be

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in control of things but how do we get

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from where we are to where I'd like to

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see us becoming a part of the Galactic

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Federation may be having a branch of the

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Galactic Federation Intelligence Agency

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here I'd love to read a history book

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life in the last 10,000 years in our

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neighborhood what has happened and I

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02:00:56,030 --> 02:00:52,430
think it would be fascinating to read

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02:00:58,700 --> 02:00:56,040
but how many times have there been alien

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02:01:01,970 --> 02:00:58,710
visitations to earth maybe a million

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02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:01,980
years ago or 10 million years ago that's

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02:01:05,330 --> 02:01:02,970
right what happened

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02:01:07,020 --> 02:01:05,340
yeah that's exotic I don't know I don't

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02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:07,030
know either but you

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02:01:15,359 --> 02:01:11,050
would think you know 20 to 100 billion

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planets in our galaxy I would think that

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they've known about this beautiful

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bright blue planet of ours for a very

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long time Stan let's take a brandy yes

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and we'll continue this conversation but

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when I come back Stanton on the hot seat

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I'm gonna take him out of his comfort

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zone and we're gonna do that next

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this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy

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Church we'll be right back our a digital

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[Applause]

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you want to know a secret

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I love ponies I really love ponies I'm

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serious I couldn't stay sane without

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poor mr. brush why fade to black

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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host Jimmy Church I'm the game changer

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network in KCRA the planet you can

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out of control tonight

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follow me on Twitter at J Church radio

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you guys are really enjoying this

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conversation tonight and so am I and

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Stanton this is what we're gonna do I'm

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gonna go a little bit rapid-fire you can

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02:06:58,270 --> 02:06:56,420
take your time but I'm gonna ask

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02:07:01,510 --> 02:06:58,280
yourself that you probably have never

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02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:01,520
been asked okay you ready

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are you no I'm not saying I have an

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answer for all the questions let's do it

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Bigfoot Stanton what do you think I

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02:07:19,479 --> 02:07:15,140
think that there are there's enough

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evidence I worked with somebody Bobby

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02:07:24,610 --> 02:07:21,860
and Slater andhe who did a lot of

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02:07:28,690 --> 02:07:24,620
looking at the Bigfoot data and I'm

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convinced that some of the reports large

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02:07:36,670 --> 02:07:33,050
creatures sometimes associated with UFOs

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02:07:40,060 --> 02:07:36,680
which raises all kinds of questions are

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really out there and no I can't bring

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one into the lab and stuff like that I

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was just reading recently that

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apparently there are still in Central

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America places native tribes that have

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02:08:00,360 --> 02:07:52,250
never had contact with the outside world

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02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:00,370
you know it's a big planet for Bigfoot

2335
02:08:08,970 --> 02:08:03,770
many men in black Stanton

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02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:08,980
have you been visited over the years no

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02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:12,890
I have to say that I mean I can't prove

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that nobody I ever talked to was really

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a secret government agent in disguise

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and I will say this there was one

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02:08:25,590 --> 02:08:22,969
occasion when I gave a lecture at a

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college in New Mexico of all places

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02:08:31,330 --> 02:08:29,540
where a guy asked he told me he was very

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02:08:34,510 --> 02:08:31,340
interested in the subject and so forth

2345
02:08:38,020 --> 02:08:34,520
and invited me over to his home which

2346
02:08:40,630 --> 02:08:38,030
was kind of unusual and but he said

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02:08:41,740 --> 02:08:40,640
enough to get me intrigued about any new

2348
02:08:43,180 --> 02:08:41,750
stuff and

2349
02:08:47,770 --> 02:08:43,190
apparently they had been paying

2350
02:08:50,170 --> 02:08:47,780
attention to me and they thought I was

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02:08:54,490 --> 02:08:50,180
doing okay it was a right they were not

2352
02:08:59,920 --> 02:08:54,500
worried about me and so that got me

2353
02:09:03,610 --> 02:08:59,930
wondering you know how many intelligence

2354
02:09:04,500 --> 02:09:03,620
agencies have a sort of a UFO subsection

2355
02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:04,510
if you will

2356
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:07,730
keeping tabs on who's doing what or

2357
02:09:13,870 --> 02:09:10,250
shouldn't be or somebody about to break

2358
02:09:16,780 --> 02:09:13,880
loose or you know stuff like that but

2359
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:16,790
that that's as close as I've come I

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02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:20,330
haven't been threatened by anybody I was

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02:09:26,290 --> 02:09:23,210
told I wasn't bothering people that it

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02:09:28,210 --> 02:09:26,300
was okay which I guess was sort of

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02:09:31,090 --> 02:09:28,220
comforting I'd have been worried if he

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02:09:32,890 --> 02:09:31,100
had said Stan you're on a list and you'd

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02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:32,900
better watch your back if somebody had

2366
02:09:41,050 --> 02:09:36,050
said that to me I'd be very concerned so

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02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:41,060
I I lived a peaceful existence I guess I

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had it clearance for 14 years I respect

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02:09:49,510 --> 02:09:47,990
security I think people know anybody

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who's listened to my lectures and stuff

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02:09:57,880 --> 02:09:51,740
notice of my approaches to go for the

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facts for the data and a certain which

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are like concerned with the peaceful

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future of the planet not just because I

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have a great grandson but that's part of

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02:10:14,700 --> 02:10:10,780
the picture so it's not my ego that's

2377
02:10:18,490 --> 02:10:14,710
needs to be fed here is what I'm saying

2378
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and so I'm not gonna worry about men in

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black you know famous last words I

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suppose but they've been at this a long

2381
02:10:29,710 --> 02:10:27,950
time well after after tonight's show do

2382
02:10:34,870 --> 02:10:29,720
me a favor call me tomorrow and let me

2383
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:34,880
know how that conversation goes all

2384
02:10:42,910 --> 02:10:36,490
right next question

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02:10:46,930 --> 02:10:42,920
your favorite UFO photo not the best

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02:10:50,830 --> 02:10:46,940
photo but your favorite and for me it's

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02:10:54,700 --> 02:10:50,840
Rex heflin's stuff but it's it's not the

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best but it's my favorite for you what's

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02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:55,599
your favorite

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02:11:02,290 --> 02:10:59,360
actually what went through my mind when

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02:11:08,859 --> 02:11:02,300
the SI question was the Rex Heflin

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pictures so I I don't know I I'm yeah I

2393
02:11:15,609 --> 02:11:12,409
I defer to Bruce Maccabee use an optical

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02:11:17,979 --> 02:11:15,619
physicist dr. Bruce Maccabee who's

2395
02:11:20,919 --> 02:11:17,989
examined a lot of photos and very

2396
02:11:22,899 --> 02:11:20,929
carefully and I'm certainly convinced

2397
02:11:26,319 --> 02:11:22,909
that there are a number that are genuine

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02:11:28,750 --> 02:11:26,329
I I like the ones the santa anna the

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haplin photos will certainly are on my

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list and i show them at my lectures when

2401
02:11:39,339 --> 02:11:37,460
i get a chance to and i was trying to

2402
02:11:41,350 --> 02:11:39,349
think of one that i saw recently where

2403
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:41,360
the heck was I don't even remember where

2404
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:43,130
it was because I'm past the point where

2405
02:11:49,089 --> 02:11:46,010
I need to have a picture to prove that

2406
02:11:51,189 --> 02:11:49,099
there are things out there you know as I

2407
02:11:52,930 --> 02:11:51,199
say to people that look I've never seen

2408
02:11:56,169 --> 02:11:52,940
a neutron I've never seen a gamma-ray

2409
02:11:57,819 --> 02:11:56,179
I'm convinced they're real too so yes

2410
02:11:59,919 --> 02:11:57,829
I'm satisfied that there are pictures

2411
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,929
that pass muster with professional

2412
02:12:05,799 --> 02:12:01,760
scientists who spent a long time looking

2413
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:05,809
at them dr. Bruce Maccabee being one but

2414
02:12:10,899 --> 02:12:08,650
I don't make a big deal about that and

2415
02:12:13,180 --> 02:12:10,909
you know people say why don't we have

2416
02:12:15,609 --> 02:12:13,190
better pictures what do you want the

2417
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:15,619
moon is huge in the sky at arm's length

2418
02:12:31,569 --> 02:12:28,290
there a bunch of pictures that I show

2419
02:12:35,109 --> 02:12:31,579
that I think are legitimate but they're

2420
02:12:36,910 --> 02:12:35,119
not the essence of the story you know I

2421
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:36,920
know that the government there are

2422
02:12:41,470 --> 02:12:39,050
fighter pilots who've come fairly close

2423
02:12:43,870 --> 02:12:41,480
to UFOs and taking good pictures with

2424
02:12:45,580 --> 02:12:43,880
good cameras let's face it the best

2425
02:12:48,220 --> 02:12:45,590
equipment around is owned by the

2426
02:12:50,319 --> 02:12:48,230
government for whether its radar I don't

2427
02:12:52,930 --> 02:12:50,329
have my own radar installation you know

2428
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:52,940
I don't have a high speed craft that I

2429
02:12:56,799 --> 02:12:55,010
can get up close to a saucer if somebody

2430
02:12:58,810 --> 02:12:56,809
calls me from someplace hey get over

2431
02:13:01,720 --> 02:12:58,820
here Stan they sitting right outside my

2432
02:13:05,140 --> 02:13:01,730
window I mean you know the real world

2433
02:13:08,020 --> 02:13:05,150
right right well if the the Costa Rican

2434
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:08,030
mapping picture from high altitude with

2435
02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:08,810
that disc

2436
02:13:14,890 --> 02:13:12,770
below the plane that that that is that

2437
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:14,900
may be the best that's a crazy picture

2438
02:13:24,390 --> 02:13:19,130
but I agree with you I like the trend

2439
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:24,400
odd-even trend on photos from Brazil yes

2440
02:13:34,390 --> 02:13:28,010
and I I'm satisfied that they're genuine

2441
02:13:36,610 --> 02:13:34,400
and okay that's nice just like physical

2442
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:36,620
trace cases after you've looked at the

2443
02:13:42,030 --> 02:13:39,890
first 400 such cases Ted Phillips has

2444
02:13:44,860 --> 02:13:42,040
collected thousands of such reports

2445
02:13:47,740 --> 02:13:44,870
enough is enough okay I'm convinced that

2446
02:13:49,780 --> 02:13:47,750
the alien crafts land and but they have

2447
02:13:52,420 --> 02:13:49,790
an impact on the soil beneath them and

2448
02:13:55,170 --> 02:13:52,430
so forth one six of those cases involve

2449
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:55,180
reports of being seen with the craft

2450
02:14:02,950 --> 02:14:01,040
okay uh you know I stated my conclusions

2451
02:14:06,730 --> 02:14:02,960
for a very long time that the evidence

2452
02:14:07,780 --> 02:14:06,740
is overwhelming that some UFOs are

2453
02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:07,790
intelligently controlled

2454
02:14:13,090 --> 02:14:10,370
extraterrestrial spacecraft most or not

2455
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:13,100
I don't care right right whoa next

2456
02:14:18,130 --> 02:14:14,530
question

2457
02:14:19,900 --> 02:14:18,140
besides Betty and Barney Hill okay so

2458
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:19,910
let's put that to the side

2459
02:14:28,270 --> 02:14:25,570
yes what's the best UFO case ever well

2460
02:14:31,960 --> 02:14:28,280
it depends on how you evaluate that

2461
02:14:34,630 --> 02:14:31,970
certainly I'm I've written three books

2462
02:14:37,630 --> 02:14:34,640
with Betty's nice Cathleen Martin and

2463
02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:37,640
one of them has captured the story of

2464
02:14:42,610 --> 02:14:39,650
the Betty and Barney Hill UFO experience

2465
02:14:45,060 --> 02:14:42,620
so there's no question I'm in the camp I

2466
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:45,070
met them both of course

2467
02:14:51,970 --> 02:14:48,170
Barney died less than a year after I met

2468
02:14:53,740 --> 02:14:51,980
him I think it was but and I'm

2469
02:14:56,940 --> 02:14:53,750
particularly intrigued by that starmap

2470
02:15:00,100 --> 02:14:56,950
work and all that sort of stuff but

2471
02:15:02,950 --> 02:15:00,110
there are lots of abduction cases around

2472
02:15:06,340 --> 02:15:02,960
and are good abduction researchers

2473
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:06,350
captaining Martin as there's an

2474
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:08,930
organization called free I wish I could

2475
02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:12,370
remember what fr he stands for but

2476
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:14,480
they've done a lot of looking at

2477
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:18,410
contacts with Hillians for one of a

2478
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:22,810
better phrase and so

2479
02:15:28,590 --> 02:15:27,170
the hill case I'd like because we're

2480
02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:28,600
very fortunate

2481
02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:31,130
those two people Betty and Barney Hill

2482
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:34,970
did not need or want publicity no doubt

2483
02:15:43,390 --> 02:15:39,170
a mixed marriage in 1961 black man white

2484
02:15:46,060 --> 02:15:43,400
woman bade the last thing they needed

2485
02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:46,070
was external publicity they were active

2486
02:15:51,820 --> 02:15:48,110
in civil rights activities in some way I

2487
02:15:55,600 --> 02:15:51,830
bet he was a social worker so what

2488
02:15:58,270 --> 02:15:55,610
intrigued me was how they were very

2489
02:16:01,120 --> 02:15:58,280
fortunate to wind up with dr. Benjamin

2490
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:01,130
Simon a psychiatrist who knew nothing

2491
02:16:08,650 --> 02:16:04,250
about flying saucers but knew a great

2492
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:08,660
deal about how to get people back to

2493
02:16:12,460 --> 02:16:10,570
living normally you'd had traumatic

2494
02:16:14,350 --> 02:16:12,470
experiences you know suppose your

2495
02:16:18,390 --> 02:16:14,360
buddies had got blown off next to you in

2496
02:16:21,090 --> 02:16:18,400
battle that's not easy to emigrate and

2497
02:16:23,890 --> 02:16:21,100
you know I saw a good example that how

2498
02:16:26,170 --> 02:16:23,900
surprising things can can upset it I

2499
02:16:28,780 --> 02:16:26,180
live in Fredericton New Brunswick a

2500
02:16:32,320 --> 02:16:28,790
lovely town about 60,000 the capital of

2501
02:16:36,970 --> 02:16:32,330
New Brunswick we had four murders here

2502
02:16:38,830 --> 02:16:36,980
not very long ago and the town still

2503
02:16:40,120 --> 02:16:38,840
hasn't gotten over that it's just not

2504
02:16:41,410 --> 02:16:40,130
the kind of place where that sort of

2505
02:16:43,240 --> 02:16:41,420
thing happens and two of them were

2506
02:16:48,030 --> 02:16:43,250
people who were murdered were police

2507
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:48,040
officer one of them a woman and I saw

2508
02:16:57,760 --> 02:16:52,310
how difficult it was for people to to

2509
02:17:01,320 --> 02:16:57,770
deal with that mm-hmm you know you think

2510
02:17:03,310 --> 02:17:01,330
you can just wipe it off but you can't I

2511
02:17:05,260 --> 02:17:03,320
mean I brought my family here from

2512
02:17:06,970 --> 02:17:05,270
California with all had crime and all

2513
02:17:09,730 --> 02:17:06,980
I'd try to start to live peacefully and

2514
02:17:12,550 --> 02:17:09,740
all that stuff and how could this happen

2515
02:17:16,210 --> 02:17:12,560
here and is there somebody else out

2516
02:17:19,450 --> 02:17:16,220
there is going to do it again and it's

2517
02:17:24,210 --> 02:17:19,460
shocking and so that makes me think and

2518
02:17:28,900 --> 02:17:24,220
I did a monthly column about okay

2519
02:17:32,410 --> 02:17:28,910
how will we react to the truth about

2520
02:17:35,080 --> 02:17:32,420
aliens being put out on the table it's

2521
02:17:35,950 --> 02:17:35,090
not easy to say and it's not easy to

2522
02:17:37,750 --> 02:17:35,960
deal with

2523
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:37,760
the might even for me and I've been

2524
02:17:47,129 --> 02:17:40,160
talking about him since 1967 when I gave

2525
02:17:50,740 --> 02:17:47,139
him a first lecture the the Bob Lazar

2526
02:17:57,610 --> 02:17:50,750
situation have your feelings changed

2527
02:18:00,820 --> 02:17:57,620
over the years well I have to say no

2528
02:18:03,309 --> 02:18:00,830
because I got asked about him more than

2529
02:18:05,019 --> 02:18:03,319
20 years ago because he claimed to be a

2530
02:18:08,110 --> 02:18:05,029
nuclear physicist and people knew I was

2531
02:18:11,769 --> 02:18:08,120
so I figured I better do as much as I

2532
02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:11,779
could to get the facts so George Knapp a

2533
02:18:19,660 --> 02:18:17,090
fine newsmen and Las Vegas gave me some

2534
02:18:21,700 --> 02:18:19,670
information and I checked I I did as

2535
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:21,710
much checking as I could first I checked

2536
02:18:25,330 --> 02:18:23,120
the membership of the professional

2537
02:18:26,830 --> 02:18:25,340
groups to which I belong American

2538
02:18:29,290 --> 02:18:26,840
nuclear society American Physical

2539
02:18:31,179 --> 02:18:29,300
Society the American sort of Aeronautics

2540
02:18:34,179 --> 02:18:31,189
and Astronautics and Bob wasn't listed

2541
02:18:34,929 --> 02:18:34,189
by any of them then I went a little

2542
02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:34,939
deeper

2543
02:18:41,620 --> 02:18:38,090
I checked with he claimed to have gone

2544
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:41,630
to MIT have a master's in them MIT

2545
02:18:47,139 --> 02:18:44,090
nuclear physics and masters from Caltech

2546
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:47,149
and electronics and neither one of them

2547
02:18:53,500 --> 02:18:50,210
ever heard of him then I went a step

2548
02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:53,510
farther and called as high school and

2549
02:18:59,530 --> 02:18:55,330
said I'm getting conflicting information

2550
02:19:01,540 --> 02:18:59,540
here what can you tell me well call me

2551
02:19:05,019 --> 02:19:01,550
but I call high risk paperwork here and

2552
02:19:06,939 --> 02:19:05,029
I did and she did and let's see first

2553
02:19:09,580 --> 02:19:06,949
thing she says he graduated in August

2554
02:19:12,009 --> 02:19:09,590
not with his class now guys would go to

2555
02:19:16,419 --> 02:19:12,019
MIT graduate with their class you know

2556
02:19:19,629 --> 02:19:16,429
and Caltech and so forth and then I I

2557
02:19:21,879 --> 02:19:19,639
asked well he was valedictorian I'm not

2558
02:19:25,570 --> 02:19:21,889
proud he never said he was relative or

2559
02:19:29,679 --> 02:19:25,580
nobody else did and she said no he was

2560
02:19:34,780 --> 02:19:29,689
not left and I said well was he in the

2561
02:19:38,500 --> 02:19:34,790
top ten no top twenty eight no top fifty

2562
02:19:43,209 --> 02:19:38,510
no top 100 no and she's laughing by this

2563
02:19:47,469 --> 02:19:43,219
time and finally it was like 265 and at

2564
02:19:49,420 --> 02:19:47,479
360 bottom third of his class so I knew

2565
02:19:51,700 --> 02:19:49,430
he had

2566
02:19:56,229 --> 02:19:51,710
you don't get into MIT or Caltech in the

2567
02:20:01,120 --> 02:19:56,239
bottom 30 class you know and I checked

2568
02:20:06,849 --> 02:20:01,130
to more than one person at each of the

2569
02:20:09,820 --> 02:20:06,859
institutions and so forth and so I and I

2570
02:20:12,820 --> 02:20:09,830
get asked periodically and I will admit

2571
02:20:15,150 --> 02:20:12,830
he seems to be a very sharp guy okay

2572
02:20:20,010 --> 02:20:15,160
he's not stupid

2573
02:20:22,689 --> 02:20:20,020
but he is lying about his own background

2574
02:20:25,300 --> 02:20:22,699
he doesn't have those degrees which were

2575
02:20:26,979 --> 02:20:25,310
the reason some people thought he did

2576
02:20:28,450 --> 02:20:26,989
and therefore believed him because

2577
02:20:30,780 --> 02:20:28,460
people with those degrees should be

2578
02:20:33,580 --> 02:20:30,790
believable and says here in small print

2579
02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:33,590
so I haven't really changed and I

2580
02:20:38,469 --> 02:20:35,120
haven't done anything new in the last

2581
02:20:41,530 --> 02:20:38,479
few years they've seen no reason to

2582
02:20:43,719 --> 02:20:41,540
change my mind I'm hoping give me some

2583
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:43,729
evidence you know I checked I couldn't

2584
02:20:52,260 --> 02:20:45,680
find any technical report studied bread

2585
02:20:55,210 --> 02:20:52,270
written nothing to substantiate so

2586
02:20:57,639 --> 02:20:55,220
absence of evidence is not evidence for

2587
02:21:01,510 --> 02:20:57,649
absence it means you don't have any data

2588
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:01,520
to support it so I'm not I'm satisfied

2589
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:03,770
that there's nothing there somebody

2590
02:21:11,019 --> 02:21:07,130
shows me something I'll be happy who

2591
02:21:13,300 --> 02:21:11,029
built the Great Pyramid well you know

2592
02:21:17,740 --> 02:21:13,310
the business about pyramids is

2593
02:21:20,380 --> 02:21:17,750
intriguing to me because again as I said

2594
02:21:22,780 --> 02:21:20,390
I'm ready to start we have found that

2595
02:21:25,780 --> 02:21:22,790
there are planets all over the place out

2596
02:21:29,439 --> 02:21:25,790
there far more than we had anticipated

2597
02:21:31,450 --> 02:21:29,449
and when you look at the age you know

2598
02:21:35,410 --> 02:21:31,460
there are still people saying 5,000

2599
02:21:37,800 --> 02:21:35,420
years the lifespan of life for 6,000

2600
02:21:42,400 --> 02:21:37,810
years on this planet and as opposed to

2601
02:21:44,830 --> 02:21:42,410
billions of years so I don't know who

2602
02:21:47,910 --> 02:21:44,840
built the pyramids but it wouldn't

2603
02:21:50,410 --> 02:21:47,920
surprise me if there was an element of

2604
02:21:55,599 --> 02:21:50,420
extraterrestrial 'ti in the sense of I

2605
02:21:58,269 --> 02:21:55,609
think ETS have come here and kind of way

2606
02:22:01,420 --> 02:21:58,279
come back whatever it's a nice place to

2607
02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:01,430
visit on your way to someplace else for

2608
02:22:06,060 --> 02:22:03,160
all I know where somebody's calling

2609
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:06,070
to begin with somebody else could say

2610
02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:07,450
well you're maybe you're somebody's crop

2611
02:22:12,120 --> 02:22:08,980
you know and they're serving earthlings

2612
02:22:15,780 --> 02:22:12,130
for dinner I actually I have no way of

2613
02:22:19,290 --> 02:22:15,790
saying but I am fascinated by the

2614
02:22:23,301 --> 02:22:19,300
history of our planet and also by how

2615
02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:23,311
ignorant we are of that history I mean

2616
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:29,200
Enric Lehman found Troy you know the

2617
02:22:34,470 --> 02:22:30,880
legend of Troy and all that sort of

2618
02:22:37,220 --> 02:22:34,480
stuff he dug down uh it was 67 feet 70

2619
02:22:39,420 --> 02:22:37,230
feet something like that I

2620
02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:39,430
there aren't many parts of the planet

2621
02:22:47,100 --> 02:22:43,150
we've dug down to 60 or 70 feet I I

2622
02:22:49,140 --> 02:22:47,110
wished that a navy nuclear powered

2623
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:49,150
submarine was scouting around on the

2624
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:52,000
bottom of the ocean looking for wrecks

2625
02:22:57,631 --> 02:22:56,050
and history and stuff like that and I'll

2626
02:22:59,490 --> 02:22:57,641
bet we'd find all kinds of interesting

2627
02:23:04,190 --> 02:22:59,500
things but that's not how we spend our

2628
02:23:06,210 --> 02:23:04,200
money you know so I think the aliens

2629
02:23:08,190 --> 02:23:06,220
civilizations may have had something to

2630
02:23:11,400 --> 02:23:08,200
do with the pyramids now maybe we are

2631
02:23:14,370 --> 02:23:11,410
built as a beacon for a competition my

2632
02:23:18,810 --> 02:23:14,380
pyramids big in New York pyramid not a

2633
02:23:21,511 --> 02:23:18,820
bad idea not a bad idea could be one of

2634
02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:21,521
the things one of the things about it

2635
02:23:26,250 --> 02:23:24,490
and you have such a great mind when it

2636
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:26,260
comes to this stuff and especially when

2637
02:23:32,610 --> 02:23:29,410
it comes to documents in writing the

2638
02:23:35,310 --> 02:23:32,620
Great Pyramid quite frankly it's it's no

2639
02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:35,320
great mystery here but there's no high

2640
02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:37,660
work there's nothing there's nothing on

2641
02:23:42,750 --> 02:23:41,040
that pyramid it doesn't make any sense

2642
02:23:44,580 --> 02:23:42,760
especially if you're gonna build a

2643
02:23:47,610 --> 02:23:44,590
pyramid bigger than the next guy right

2644
02:23:50,460 --> 02:23:47,620
well you're gonna mark it and there is

2645
02:23:53,310 --> 02:23:50,470
the lack of anything like that there

2646
02:23:57,960 --> 02:23:53,320
could it be Staunton that it was built

2647
02:24:00,540 --> 02:23:57,970
before there was hieroglyphics of course

2648
02:24:03,480 --> 02:24:00,550
it could be and there's there's still

2649
02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:03,490
mysteries out there and I'm intrigued by

2650
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:06,090
mysteries of mysteries take money to

2651
02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:09,760
investigate you know as I say I've

2652
02:24:16,421 --> 02:24:11,650
traveled the realm I

2653
02:24:17,770 --> 02:24:16,431
lectured 19 countries and fortunately

2654
02:24:19,711 --> 02:24:17,780
there were people who paid me to lecture

2655
02:24:23,230 --> 02:24:19,721
so I can afford to go to those countries

2656
02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:23,240
and go to archives and stuff like that

2657
02:24:27,430 --> 02:24:25,250
and I am very grateful to the mutual UFO

2658
02:24:33,791 --> 02:24:27,440
network on occasion to the Center for

2659
02:24:38,700 --> 02:24:33,801
UFO studies its research doesn't come

2660
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:38,710
cheap so I wish we could spend more

2661
02:24:43,330 --> 02:24:41,570
research on finding out the truth about

2662
02:24:44,890 --> 02:24:43,340
some of the mysteries of our planet

2663
02:24:48,850 --> 02:24:44,900
somebody had mentioned big food earlier

2664
02:24:51,850 --> 02:24:48,860
I would like to see more effort put in

2665
02:24:54,730 --> 02:24:51,860
and instead of into better means of

2666
02:25:00,100 --> 02:24:54,740
killing people you know we do a lot of

2667
02:25:04,631 --> 02:25:00,110
that so the pyramids are you know a

2668
02:25:08,501 --> 02:25:04,641
beacon for curiosity how the heck did

2669
02:25:11,470 --> 02:25:08,511
that happen you know who put that and

2670
02:25:15,030 --> 02:25:11,480
why and there's more than one after all

2671
02:25:17,890 --> 02:25:15,040
and most things are darn big right

2672
02:25:21,341 --> 02:25:17,900
that's not a little teepee on the corner

2673
02:25:25,360 --> 02:25:21,351
no it is not no it isn't it is so funny

2674
02:25:27,730 --> 02:25:25,370
how how little we know and amnesia right

2675
02:25:30,541 --> 02:25:27,740
ok one last question before I have to

2676
02:25:35,591 --> 02:25:30,551
say goodnight or a good morning to you

2677
02:25:38,950 --> 02:25:35,601
which is shag harbour shag harbour yeah

2678
02:25:41,470 --> 02:25:38,960
for some reason is like the redheaded

2679
02:25:43,770 --> 02:25:41,480
stepchild of ufology nobody talks about

2680
02:25:49,211 --> 02:25:43,780
it there's no real and it's right there

2681
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:49,221
documented an amazing event happened

2682
02:25:56,620 --> 02:25:54,170
right there in in Canada first off what

2683
02:25:59,410 --> 02:25:56,630
are your opinions on shag harbour and

2684
02:26:02,350 --> 02:25:59,420
and second why is it that everybody

2685
02:26:04,890 --> 02:26:02,360
wants to talk about the Roswell which is

2686
02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:04,900
fine or Rendlesham which is fine or

2687
02:26:11,110 --> 02:26:08,210
Malmstrom Air Force Base and and I love

2688
02:26:13,511 --> 02:26:11,120
Travis Walton and and all of that but

2689
02:26:17,051 --> 02:26:13,521
shag harbour is not on that list for

2690
02:26:19,211 --> 02:26:17,061
everybody why well I've been there I

2691
02:26:21,610 --> 02:26:19,221
spoke at the conference there and I'm

2692
02:26:24,430 --> 02:26:21,620
talked to some of the witnesses and on

2693
02:26:24,940 --> 02:26:24,440
Mike Roswell it happened a lot more

2694
02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:24,950
recent

2695
02:26:29,740 --> 02:26:27,530
so the people who aren't so old I think

2696
02:26:32,020 --> 02:26:29,750
it's very hard to find them first and

2697
02:26:34,930 --> 02:26:32,030
Roswell witness I mean it happened you

2698
02:26:38,470 --> 02:26:34,940
know 47 is a long time ago people aren't

2699
02:26:40,390 --> 02:26:38,480
about I think Shaq Harbor is an

2700
02:26:42,330 --> 02:26:40,400
excellent case but I don't think they've

2701
02:26:47,020 --> 02:26:42,340
had one of their conferences for a while

2702
02:26:49,511 --> 02:26:47,030
and it's yeah I was gonna say in the

2703
02:26:52,870 --> 02:26:49,521
middle of nowhere that that's not a fair

2704
02:26:56,290 --> 02:26:52,880
statement but it's pretty close it's not

2705
02:26:58,930 --> 02:26:56,300
on the mainstream and it hasn't there

2706
02:27:03,881 --> 02:26:58,940
hasn't been a serious effort to you know

2707
02:27:07,780 --> 02:27:03,891
it's not like why is Roswell well we

2708
02:27:10,841 --> 02:27:07,790
forget that there were a lot of people

2709
02:27:12,730 --> 02:27:10,851
in Roswell incident and that New Mexico

2710
02:27:15,250 --> 02:27:12,740
was the home of two of the three nuclear

2711
02:27:17,980 --> 02:27:15,260
weapons labs in the home of White Sands

2712
02:27:20,500 --> 02:27:17,990
Missile Range there's an awful lot of

2713
02:27:23,470 --> 02:27:20,510
military and high-technology

2714
02:27:27,190 --> 02:27:23,480
activity there we can see why aliens

2715
02:27:29,530 --> 02:27:27,200
would go there and you can see why the

2716
02:27:34,720 --> 02:27:29,540
government would shut up about I mean

2717
02:27:38,381 --> 02:27:34,730
there's Los Alamos you know budget over

2718
02:27:42,460 --> 02:27:38,391
a billion dollars a year on our security

2719
02:27:45,460 --> 02:27:42,470
around that place so shy Harbor is a

2720
02:27:48,790 --> 02:27:45,470
stepchild of the movement if you will I

2721
02:27:53,890 --> 02:27:48,800
wish it weren't so but what can I say I

2722
02:27:59,680 --> 02:27:53,900
do as far as shag harbour goes do you

2723
02:28:01,950 --> 02:27:59,690
think it was a legit UFO situation or do

2724
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:01,960
you think that it was something else I

2725
02:28:10,540 --> 02:28:07,130
think it was a UFO situation yes and the

2726
02:28:13,150 --> 02:28:10,550
Navy it was certainly concerned and the

2727
02:28:16,620 --> 02:28:13,160
United States Navy and military was

2728
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:16,630
concerned yet about it well yeah yeah

2729
02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:19,130
but they weren't gonna be talking about

2730
02:28:26,500 --> 02:28:21,200
it and the witnesses aren't making a big

2731
02:28:30,910 --> 02:28:26,510
noise and people haven't set up a big

2732
02:28:33,310 --> 02:28:30,920
museum and sent out invitations to come

2733
02:28:35,650 --> 02:28:33,320
there and all all the rest of that so I

2734
02:28:37,859 --> 02:28:35,660
like the case I've talked to some of the

2735
02:28:40,780 --> 02:28:37,869
people I was very favorably impressed

2736
02:28:44,679 --> 02:28:40,790
but what do I do after that yeah I know

2737
02:28:48,340 --> 02:28:44,689
I know it's shocking to me all right one

2738
02:28:52,530 --> 02:28:48,350
last parting shot across the bow this

2739
02:28:58,630 --> 02:28:52,540
evening before we part ways have you

2740
02:29:02,620 --> 02:28:58,640
seen or had your own sighting no that's

2741
02:29:04,929 --> 02:29:02,630
an easy one to answer as I said earlier

2742
02:29:06,729 --> 02:29:04,939
I've never seen a neutron or a gamma-ray

2743
02:29:09,010 --> 02:29:06,739
and I think they're real - I've never

2744
02:29:11,889 --> 02:29:09,020
seen a flying saucer I've talked to

2745
02:29:13,719 --> 02:29:11,899
loads of people who have and you know

2746
02:29:15,460 --> 02:29:13,729
maybe it's because I grew up in New

2747
02:29:17,590 --> 02:29:15,470
Jersey and there's a lot of smog there

2748
02:29:21,729 --> 02:29:17,600
and you're not looking up you're too

2749
02:29:26,170 --> 02:29:21,739
busy looking for traffic no I've never

2750
02:29:29,679 --> 02:29:26,180
had a sighting and I bother me I've

2751
02:29:32,260 --> 02:29:29,689
talked to enough people who have and you

2752
02:29:36,219 --> 02:29:32,270
know it's like the research on the this

2753
02:29:38,439 --> 02:29:36,229
Betty Hill star map Zeta 1 and Zeta 2

2754
02:29:40,660 --> 02:29:38,449
reticular I know I haven't been there I

2755
02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:40,670
haven't talked to any Zeta Reticulans

2756
02:29:46,870 --> 02:29:44,210
but it's a strong story I'm very strong

2757
02:29:49,870 --> 02:29:46,880
story and the starmap work and all the

2758
02:29:52,479 --> 02:29:49,880
rest of that and so you know I wish I

2759
02:29:55,450 --> 02:29:52,489
could say that I had but I haven't and

2760
02:29:58,899 --> 02:29:55,460
that's the way life is to it and I

2761
02:30:04,590 --> 02:29:58,909
should give out my website is triple w

2762
02:30:08,399 --> 02:30:04,600
dot Stanton Friedman Fri EDMA and calm

2763
02:30:13,630 --> 02:30:08,409
and get my books there are good deals

2764
02:30:16,929 --> 02:30:13,640
you know live it up educated Stanton

2765
02:30:19,510 --> 02:30:16,939
thank you for not only your contribution

2766
02:30:22,389 --> 02:30:19,520
to ufology but thank you for continuing

2767
02:30:25,929 --> 02:30:22,399
to roll that rock uphill you've been

2768
02:30:28,149 --> 02:30:25,939
doing it forever and just the respect is

2769
02:30:30,250 --> 02:30:28,159
there from all of us so thank you so

2770
02:30:31,929 --> 02:30:30,260
much and I can't wait - my pleasure

2771
02:30:33,820 --> 02:30:31,939
can't wait to get you back on the show

2772
02:30:34,719 --> 02:30:33,830
and continue the conversation thank you

2773
02:30:38,260 --> 02:30:34,729
so much okay

2774
02:30:41,349 --> 02:30:38,270
Thank You Stan good night Sam Stanton

2775
02:30:43,300 --> 02:30:41,359
Friedman everybody there you go I'm

2776
02:30:47,460 --> 02:30:43,310
gonna take a quick break I'm going to

2777
02:30:49,889 --> 02:30:47,470
also open up the phone lines so we'll do

2778
02:30:52,050 --> 02:30:49,899
that when we come back Stanton Friedman

2779
02:30:52,290 --> 02:30:52,060
amazing conversation this is fade to

2780
02:30:55,320 --> 02:30:52,300
black

2781
02:30:57,900 --> 02:30:55,330
day two of our UFO week tomorrow night

2782
02:31:00,000 --> 02:30:57,910
buried Littleton is gonna be here all

2783
02:31:01,320 --> 02:31:00,010
right gonna take your phone calls next

2784
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:01,330
this is

2785
02:31:21,770 --> 02:31:04,250
fade to black see you in a second

2786
02:31:24,450 --> 02:31:21,780
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[Music]

2874
02:36:01,740 --> 02:35:58,930
what a great conversation Stanton T

2875
02:36:03,990 --> 02:36:01,750
Friedman right there amazing

2876
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conversation and could have gone out

2877
02:36:08,460 --> 02:36:06,010
forever but you got to understand it's

2878
02:36:11,011 --> 02:36:08,470
uh it's like four o'clock in the morning

2879
02:36:12,631 --> 02:36:11,021
out there in a New Brunswick but just an

2880
02:36:14,820 --> 02:36:12,641
amazing conversation thank you so much

2881
02:36:15,631 --> 02:36:14,830
for that stand and we'll do it again

2882
02:36:18,270 --> 02:36:15,641
soon

2883
02:36:20,430 --> 02:36:18,280
I've opened up the phone lines three two

2884
02:36:23,341 --> 02:36:20,440
three eight to five five zero four or

2885
02:36:26,100 --> 02:36:23,351
five or three to three to seven five

2886
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:26,110
nine six nine five or eight one eight

2887
02:36:34,950 --> 02:36:30,010
nine to one six nine to nine and let's

2888
02:36:35,790 --> 02:36:34,960
go to area code for one for you're up

2889
02:36:39,180 --> 02:36:35,800
first

2890
02:36:40,261 --> 02:36:39,190
on fade to black who's calling hi Jimmy

2891
02:36:45,450 --> 02:36:40,271
this is berrin

2892
02:36:49,620 --> 02:36:45,460
hi Brian how are you good good awesome

2893
02:36:52,970 --> 02:36:49,630
lineup this week yeah yeah just you know

2894
02:36:55,650 --> 02:36:52,980
Stan Freedman you know he's the best so

2895
02:36:59,370 --> 02:36:55,660
yeah yeah absolutely what's on your mind

2896
02:37:02,370 --> 02:36:59,380
Brian well I just want to tell you on me

2897
02:37:04,950 --> 02:37:02,380
I mean I'm the same age as you and we're

2898
02:37:07,730 --> 02:37:04,960
trying to find out the truth and you're

2899
02:37:11,250 --> 02:37:07,740
doing great job

2900
02:37:14,881 --> 02:37:11,260
right and when and as you listened to

2901
02:37:17,490 --> 02:37:14,891
Stanton tonight and what stood out for

2902
02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:17,500
you for me there was so much but what

2903
02:37:25,350 --> 02:37:22,090
stood out for you Bob he is playing here

2904
02:37:29,640 --> 02:37:25,360
he is the pioneer and we're gonna finish

2905
02:37:31,620 --> 02:37:29,650
his job that there you know what I

2906
02:37:33,960 --> 02:37:31,630
couldn't agree with you more Brian and

2907
02:37:35,700 --> 02:37:33,970
thank you thank you for the phone call

2908
02:37:39,030 --> 02:37:35,710
and I'm sure Stanton is listening right

2909
02:37:42,120 --> 02:37:39,040
now thank you so much all right

2910
02:37:44,551 --> 02:37:42,130
yes thank you yeah thank you

2911
02:37:46,350 --> 02:37:44,561
let's stay right on the phones thank you

2912
02:37:47,970 --> 02:37:46,360
for that phone call Brian hi you're live

2913
02:37:55,230 --> 02:37:47,980
on fade to black who's calling

2914
02:38:01,410 --> 02:37:55,240
i Jimmy this is mr. anonymous ak8 great

2915
02:38:03,841 --> 02:38:01,420
time minus one okay how are you Ray I'm

2916
02:38:06,301 --> 02:38:03,851
terrific Jimmy hey I really appreciate

2917
02:38:07,500 --> 02:38:06,311
you guys getting standing on tonight

2918
02:38:09,780 --> 02:38:07,510
that was terrific

2919
02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:09,790
he's the best man

2920
02:38:17,100 --> 02:38:13,240
the best and and the the more that we

2921
02:38:20,220 --> 02:38:17,110
get out of him the better and I know you

2922
02:38:23,130 --> 02:38:20,230
know there's so much more that he that

2923
02:38:25,050 --> 02:38:23,140
he knows and that can offer us but you

2924
02:38:28,820 --> 02:38:25,060
have to ask the right questions I tried

2925
02:38:34,620 --> 02:38:31,650
you did great I mean you know a lot of

2926
02:38:37,140 --> 02:38:34,630
times you can almost deduce what what's

2927
02:38:39,630 --> 02:38:37,150
going on but what's not spoken about it

2928
02:38:42,480 --> 02:38:39,640
the spoken word that's exactly right

2929
02:38:44,970 --> 02:38:42,490
that's exactly right and and Stanton

2930
02:38:49,050 --> 02:38:44,980
knows you know he's been there you know

2931
02:38:52,470 --> 02:38:49,060
the the things and it goes without

2932
02:38:54,511 --> 02:38:52,480
saying ray but and thank you for the

2933
02:38:56,940 --> 02:38:54,521
phone call it goes without saying his

2934
02:39:01,170 --> 02:38:56,950
research you know going back to not only

2935
02:39:04,230 --> 02:39:01,180
Roswell but before that and Betty and

2936
02:39:06,180 --> 02:39:04,240
Barney Hill the mj-12 documents his

2937
02:39:09,511 --> 02:39:06,190
relationship with Bill more over the

2938
02:39:12,330 --> 02:39:09,521
years and Jaime shandur a he has he has

2939
02:39:15,240 --> 02:39:12,340
seen it all he's seen it all it's it's

2940
02:39:20,400 --> 02:39:15,250
way beyond the scope and we need to

2941
02:39:22,200 --> 02:39:20,410
respect that and to to get out of him

2942
02:39:24,960 --> 02:39:22,210
tonight that he's sitting on a document

2943
02:39:26,850 --> 02:39:24,970
he's sitting on and he's going to take

2944
02:39:30,660 --> 02:39:26,860
the time to find out what's going on

2945
02:39:34,170 --> 02:39:30,670
with it don't you want to know 48 pages

2946
02:39:37,940 --> 02:39:34,180
man and and and it's a modern document

2947
02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:37,950
so well we'll get to those you know I

2948
02:39:45,090 --> 02:39:42,130
was I was at Aero testing my hobby for

2949
02:39:50,550 --> 02:39:45,100
all three or four years back in the late

2950
02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:50,560
80s Early 90s and we helped take apart

2951
02:39:55,560 --> 02:39:53,680
one of the m21 aircraft that's no but

2952
02:39:57,750 --> 02:39:55,570
the museum of flight up at Seattle

2953
02:40:00,720 --> 02:39:57,760
mm-hmm and it's a it's basically a

2954
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:00,730
launch platform for hypersonic vehicles

2955
02:40:05,430 --> 02:40:03,010
we had a lot of fun with it but in the

2956
02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:05,440
process we discovered that some of the

2957
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:07,570
engine functions were still classified

2958
02:40:12,420 --> 02:40:09,850
documents and we couldn't release it

2959
02:40:14,910 --> 02:40:12,430
well one of the guys there had

2960
02:40:16,770 --> 02:40:14,920
experience at Lockheed went over to

2961
02:40:22,380 --> 02:40:16,780
Lockheed and managed to get these

2962
02:40:23,190 --> 02:40:22,390
documents Declassified and I still have

2963
02:40:26,011 --> 02:40:23,200
I still

2964
02:40:28,411 --> 02:40:26,021
some contacts with these people so I

2965
02:40:30,631 --> 02:40:28,421
sent Stanton an email tonight's and it

2966
02:40:32,701 --> 02:40:30,641
I'll do my best to look up and see if

2967
02:40:35,640 --> 02:40:32,711
any of my contacts are still alive

2968
02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:35,650
because you know at sixty four I've lost

2969
02:40:41,611 --> 02:40:38,650
a lot of friends over the years and and

2970
02:40:44,131 --> 02:40:41,621
that was the same time period when I

2971
02:40:47,161 --> 02:40:44,141
used to go up to China light on us early

2972
02:40:50,310 --> 02:40:47,171
regular basis they had a really good AAA

2973
02:40:53,400 --> 02:40:50,320
meeting up there and I went oh every

2974
02:40:55,980 --> 02:40:53,410
Thursday and I happened to meet one of

2975
02:40:59,761 --> 02:40:55,990
the mechanical engineers that worked at

2976
02:41:02,281 --> 02:40:59,771
China Lake and I just casually mentioned

2977
02:41:06,831 --> 02:41:02,291
the mj-12 documents and he said well

2978
02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:06,841
I've got 20 years here in at China Lake

2979
02:41:12,890 --> 02:41:09,610
want to bring me a copy of them and I'll

2980
02:41:15,961 --> 02:41:12,900
check to find out if they're for real I

2981
02:41:19,350 --> 02:41:15,971
submitted it to him the next Thursday

2982
02:41:23,850 --> 02:41:19,360
and he took them he was gone for about

2983
02:41:26,491 --> 02:41:23,860
about a month when he came back he said

2984
02:41:31,291 --> 02:41:26,501
these are bonafide they're real which

2985
02:41:35,190 --> 02:41:31,301
ones did him look at I've got copies on

2986
02:41:36,661 --> 02:41:35,200
the computer I'm not that okay yeah fair

2987
02:41:40,350 --> 02:41:36,671
enough yeah I'm curious about that

2988
02:41:44,310 --> 02:41:40,360
I asked Stanton about that many years

2989
02:41:48,861 --> 02:41:44,320
ago both on the record and off and he

2990
02:41:54,511 --> 02:41:48,871
felt pretty confident that the twining

2991
02:41:56,480 --> 02:41:54,521
document was authentic I think that a

2992
02:41:59,730 --> 02:41:56,490
large chunk of the mj-12 documents

2993
02:42:01,741 --> 02:41:59,740
started to fall apart and we also have

2994
02:42:04,621 --> 02:42:01,751
to remember what the sources were on

2995
02:42:08,190 --> 02:42:04,631
that which you know we're talking about

2996
02:42:10,650 --> 02:42:08,200
Bill Moore and Jamie SH and array and of

2997
02:42:12,031 --> 02:42:10,660
course Stanton was part of the revealing

2998
02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:12,041
of that and did the original press

2999
02:42:20,131 --> 02:42:16,450
conferences about the mj-12 documents I

3000
02:42:22,951 --> 02:42:20,141
found them to be very fun reading what

3001
02:42:26,011 --> 02:42:22,961
what I thought was more important about

3002
02:42:29,241 --> 02:42:26,021
the mj-12 documents and this is me and I

3003
02:42:32,220 --> 02:42:29,251
have talked to all of the players

3004
02:42:35,041 --> 02:42:32,230
involved with except for Bill Moore of

3005
02:42:35,910 --> 02:42:35,051
course in Jamie's Chanda ray but about

3006
02:42:39,410 --> 02:42:35,920
those

3007
02:42:44,810 --> 02:42:39,420
and what I found most intriguing was

3008
02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:44,820
somebody somewhere had the ability to

3009
02:42:53,610 --> 02:42:50,170
get the correct typewriter to type the

3010
02:42:55,140 --> 02:42:53,620
right verbage to put it together and get

3011
02:42:57,530 --> 02:42:55,150
the right stamps together in the right

3012
02:43:00,301 --> 02:42:57,540
chain of command and to get it all

3013
02:43:01,320 --> 02:43:00,311
authentic looking to the point where it

3014
02:43:06,480 --> 02:43:01,330
stumped

3015
02:43:08,551 --> 02:43:06,490
the military and out now the FBI of

3016
02:43:12,091 --> 02:43:08,561
course on their own website as stamp

3017
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:12,101
them all as as being fake and you can go

3018
02:43:17,761 --> 02:43:14,110
and look at the mj-12 documents on the

3019
02:43:20,400 --> 02:43:17,771
FBI website but that being said a great

3020
02:43:23,551 --> 02:43:20,410
effort was put into this and so you have

3021
02:43:28,081 --> 02:43:23,561
to go back and look at the possibilities

3022
02:43:30,091 --> 02:43:28,091
of a Doty being involved be an agency

3023
02:43:33,511 --> 02:43:30,101
being involved or see maybe the Air

3024
02:43:35,490 --> 02:43:33,521
Force themselves directly being involved

3025
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:35,500
in the creation of the mj-12 documents I

3026
02:43:43,320 --> 02:43:39,610
could be completely off-base here but it

3027
02:43:45,631 --> 02:43:43,330
seems like there was a lot of to put

3028
02:43:48,961 --> 02:43:45,641
those documents together I don't think

3029
02:43:51,900 --> 02:43:48,971
it was one person or two people sitting

3030
02:43:53,820 --> 02:43:51,910
at a typewriter typing in some room

3031
02:43:57,060 --> 02:43:53,830
until they got a correct document

3032
02:43:59,541 --> 02:43:57,070
you know without mistakes because it's a

3033
02:44:04,320 --> 02:43:59,551
typewriter you can't make a mistake and

3034
02:44:08,850 --> 02:44:04,330
I think that there was a large group of

3035
02:44:11,940 --> 02:44:08,860
people together on it and so I think

3036
02:44:13,820 --> 02:44:11,950
that is probably as important as the

3037
02:44:16,890 --> 02:44:13,830
documents themselves being real in that

3038
02:44:19,410 --> 02:44:16,900
why would the government be involved in

3039
02:44:22,261 --> 02:44:19,420
a massive disinformation campaign like

3040
02:44:24,810 --> 02:44:22,271
that and that's my take you know I I

3041
02:44:27,211 --> 02:44:24,820
just I find that just as intriguing as

3042
02:44:29,461 --> 02:44:27,221
you know I'm not worried about UFOs

3043
02:44:30,631 --> 02:44:29,471
being real or ETS being real I know that

3044
02:44:33,390 --> 02:44:30,641
we're not alone in the universe and

3045
02:44:35,850 --> 02:44:33,400
we're being visited so why would why

3046
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:35,860
would somebody go and create the mj-12

3047
02:44:42,290 --> 02:44:40,240
documents quite possibly from our own

3048
02:44:45,230 --> 02:44:42,300
government

3049
02:44:47,810 --> 02:44:45,240
with the interest of disinformation and

3050
02:44:51,770 --> 02:44:47,820
scaring the crap out of people I think

3051
02:44:55,850 --> 02:44:51,780
that's a bigger story you know that the

3052
02:44:59,900 --> 02:44:55,860
whole thing is very very confusing in in

3053
02:45:05,180 --> 02:44:59,910
86 and I sent a tweet out tonight on

3054
02:45:07,820 --> 02:45:05,190
that in 86 I worked at for California

3055
02:45:10,881 --> 02:45:07,830
microwave and that was a CIA company

3056
02:45:15,500 --> 02:45:10,891
mm-hmm and and we were involved with a

3057
02:45:18,740 --> 02:45:15,510
project out at Point Mugu I worked with

3058
02:45:22,070 --> 02:45:18,750
the who was at one time the director of

3059
02:45:26,211 --> 02:45:22,080
CIA ops over in Europe and I worked with

3060
02:45:30,110 --> 02:45:26,221
Jim Sullivan who was an sr-71 pilot and

3061
02:45:31,730 --> 02:45:30,120
said set lots of Records and all kinds

3062
02:45:34,660 --> 02:45:31,740
of neat things I mean these these guys

3063
02:45:37,011 --> 02:45:34,670
were we're up there and Joe Russell was

3064
02:45:39,320 --> 02:45:37,021
vice-president of the company at the

3065
02:45:41,680 --> 02:45:39,330
time and Dave leasing was the president

3066
02:45:45,680 --> 02:45:41,690
I never met him

3067
02:45:48,171 --> 02:45:45,690
but these guys it you can talk to him he

3068
02:45:51,381 --> 02:45:48,181
could be around him you would never know

3069
02:45:53,270 --> 02:45:51,391
what they know I mean you could have

3070
02:45:56,301 --> 02:45:53,280
conversations about everything and you

3071
02:45:58,520 --> 02:45:56,311
try to catch subtleties from them and

3072
02:46:01,131 --> 02:45:58,530
try to figure out okay you know who's

3073
02:46:03,440 --> 02:46:01,141
got et contactors you know anybody who's

3074
02:46:06,680 --> 02:46:03,450
flying up above 90,000 feet ahead et

3075
02:46:09,350 --> 02:46:06,690
contact or some kind sure so they've got

3076
02:46:11,631 --> 02:46:09,360
stories up the wazoo but that never

3077
02:46:15,230 --> 02:46:11,641
reached the papers and they just act

3078
02:46:16,881 --> 02:46:15,240
like it's ho-hum you know and I'm there

3079
02:46:19,551 --> 02:46:16,891
trying to get a clue as to what's really

3080
02:46:22,490 --> 02:46:19,561
going on and they don't if they don't

3081
02:46:25,100 --> 02:46:22,500
flinch yeah it's a piece of cake

3082
02:46:28,040 --> 02:46:25,110
the the only issue I had is like what

3083
02:46:30,200 --> 02:46:28,050
Stan had with with his 48 pages right

3084
02:46:33,290 --> 02:46:30,210
now is he doesn't know if they're for

3085
02:46:36,620 --> 02:46:33,300
real well the project I was on when I

3086
02:46:38,841 --> 02:46:36,630
left I tried to get debris from NSA and

3087
02:46:40,520 --> 02:46:38,851
I called him up I said hey you know this

3088
02:46:42,680 --> 02:46:40,530
is I work to the projects here

3089
02:46:45,950 --> 02:46:42,690
lieutenant commander running was in

3090
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:45,960
charge of the project and I need to be

3091
02:46:49,700 --> 02:46:48,960
decreased are they looking is they said

3092
02:46:51,290 --> 02:46:49,710
over the phone

3093
02:46:54,171 --> 02:46:51,300
well we'll have to call you back about

3094
02:46:56,121 --> 02:46:54,181
15 20 minutes they called me back and I

3095
02:46:59,480 --> 02:46:56,131
said we don't have any record

3096
02:47:02,150 --> 02:46:59,490
any project we can't tell you anything

3097
02:47:05,360 --> 02:47:02,160
and I'm like chief thanks a lot buddy

3098
02:47:10,041 --> 02:47:05,370
right right and you were there well see

3099
02:47:12,350 --> 02:47:10,051
that just goes to show you you know it's

3100
02:47:14,961 --> 02:47:12,360
easy to hear between the lines there

3101
02:47:17,331 --> 02:47:14,971
which was you know keep your mouth shut

3102
02:47:19,940 --> 02:47:17,341
and now they know who you are so there

3103
02:47:21,801 --> 02:47:19,950
you go oh yeah that's the thing they

3104
02:47:24,440 --> 02:47:21,811
don't worry about they know where I've

3105
02:47:26,930 --> 02:47:24,450
been ever since day one it's not an

3106
02:47:29,360 --> 02:47:26,940
issue you know they wouldn't waste men

3107
02:47:33,051 --> 02:47:29,370
and black hanging out on my front porch

3108
02:47:35,810 --> 02:47:33,061
it'd be a waste of their time ray thanks

3109
02:47:38,360 --> 02:47:35,820
thank you for the phone call and you

3110
02:47:40,491 --> 02:47:38,370
need to call in this Thursday on our UFO

3111
02:47:43,761 --> 02:47:40,501
Fator night and we'll take this

3112
02:47:48,711 --> 02:47:45,591
Thank You ray have a great night thank

3113
02:47:50,571 --> 02:47:48,721
you you too that's a great phone call

3114
02:47:52,671 --> 02:47:50,581
right there that's what I'm talking

3115
02:47:54,470 --> 02:47:52,681
about man I love this audience let's go

3116
02:47:56,930 --> 02:47:54,480
back to the phones let's go to area code

3117
02:48:04,060 --> 02:47:56,940
right here in Los Angeles 3-1 oh you're

3118
02:48:04,070 --> 02:48:14,831
area code 3-1 Oh lost that call yeah

3119
02:48:18,831 --> 02:48:16,911
three two three eight to five five zero

3120
02:48:21,051 --> 02:48:18,841
four five three two three two seven five

3121
02:48:24,291 --> 02:48:21,061
nine six nine five eight one eight nine

3122
02:48:26,600 --> 02:48:24,301
two one six nine two nine I could

3123
02:48:30,951 --> 02:48:26,610
squeeze in a couple of more calls I just

3124
02:48:33,741 --> 02:48:30,961
went through all of those the 48 page

3125
02:48:36,980 --> 02:48:33,751
document and if you're just dialing in

3126
02:48:40,270 --> 02:48:36,990
staunton the question was this and it

3127
02:48:42,440 --> 02:48:40,280
was a simple one Stan are you sitting on

3128
02:48:46,911 --> 02:48:42,450
information that you haven't talked

3129
02:48:50,390 --> 02:48:46,921
about you know what is it you know are

3130
02:48:55,430 --> 02:48:50,400
you sitting on the stuff and he said I

3131
02:49:01,810 --> 02:48:55,440
was mailed in a paraphrase here he says

3132
02:49:06,910 --> 02:49:01,820
I was mailed a document that

3133
02:49:10,120 --> 02:49:06,920
didn't have a return address and I asked

3134
02:49:12,340 --> 02:49:10,130
him he said that the document discussed

3135
02:49:16,570 --> 02:49:12,350
all of this first off but second

3136
02:49:19,030 --> 02:49:16,580
mentioned an interview with an ET and I

3137
02:49:22,000 --> 02:49:19,040
found that interesting and then he

3138
02:49:27,730 --> 02:49:22,010
further went on to say that the document

3139
02:49:29,470 --> 02:49:27,740
is modern about 20 years old this 2018

3140
02:49:32,820 --> 02:49:29,480
so that'll put the document at around

3141
02:49:38,370 --> 02:49:32,830
1998 he didn't remember the exact date

3142
02:49:43,540 --> 02:49:38,380
he then went on to say that it was 48

3143
02:49:47,380 --> 02:49:43,550
pages I asked him if he has spoken to

3144
02:49:49,540 --> 02:49:47,390
anyone about this document and he

3145
02:49:51,640 --> 02:49:49,550
doesn't think so I brought up John

3146
02:49:54,011 --> 02:49:51,650
Greenwald because I know that John and

3147
02:49:58,630 --> 02:49:54,021
Stanton have known each other for years

3148
02:50:01,930 --> 02:49:58,640
and of course John Greenwald runs the

3149
02:50:04,030 --> 02:50:01,940
black vault and he is the document

3150
02:50:07,240 --> 02:50:04,040
expert so if you have something you're

3151
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:07,250
gonna run it by John Greenwald first and

3152
02:50:12,250 --> 02:50:10,010
I have I have called John a few times

3153
02:50:14,410 --> 02:50:12,260
over the years when I have stumbled

3154
02:50:18,011 --> 02:50:14,420
across something and he is indeed the

3155
02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:18,021
first person that I call so Stanton's

3156
02:50:23,470 --> 02:50:20,720
retirement is eminent he's got two more

3157
02:50:26,761 --> 02:50:23,480
conferences he is going to do the last

3158
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:26,771
one does in no is in January and then

3159
02:50:31,150 --> 02:50:29,600
he's gonna put all of his attention on

3160
02:50:34,690 --> 02:50:31,160
to this document

3161
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:34,700
I can't wait to to not only see it but

3162
02:50:39,490 --> 02:50:37,010
of course its contents and I will be in

3163
02:50:42,910 --> 02:50:39,500
touch with John Greenwald first thing

3164
02:50:45,880 --> 02:50:42,920
tomorrow to discuss this I do want to

3165
02:50:48,880 --> 02:50:45,890
know if stan has given him access to it

3166
02:50:52,450 --> 02:50:48,890
so there you go one of the big reveals

3167
02:50:55,300 --> 02:50:52,460
tonight on this show was that Stan

3168
02:50:57,460 --> 02:50:55,310
Friedman has a document that he has had

3169
02:51:00,790 --> 02:50:57,470
for about two years

3170
02:51:02,680 --> 02:51:00,800
48 pages and modern let's go back to the

3171
02:51:06,280 --> 02:51:02,690
phones hi you're live on fade to black

3172
02:51:12,070 --> 02:51:06,290
who's calling hi Jamie from Sacramento

3173
02:51:13,341 --> 02:51:12,080
hi Deb from Sacramento how are you you

3174
02:51:17,301 --> 02:51:13,351
fill in the blanks on

3175
02:51:20,330 --> 02:51:17,311
one that was you know I have to say Deb

3176
02:51:23,390 --> 02:51:20,340
I do this nearly every single night of

3177
02:51:25,041 --> 02:51:23,400
the week and I anticipated this kind of

3178
02:51:27,770 --> 02:51:25,051
show tonight but Wow

3179
02:51:28,850 --> 02:51:27,780
you know Stanton Friedman I could just

3180
02:51:34,001 --> 02:51:28,860
sit and talk to him forever

3181
02:51:37,100 --> 02:51:34,011
I did I did I did try I did attempt to

3182
02:51:38,990 --> 02:51:37,110
buy him some martinis you know and I

3183
02:51:43,070 --> 02:51:39,000
just thought man here's my shot

3184
02:51:47,600 --> 02:51:43,080
it's Danton and I myself read a few of

3185
02:51:49,461 --> 02:51:47,610
our friends in the snow right up there

3186
02:51:56,211 --> 02:51:49,471
Big Bear and let's go

3187
02:51:59,990 --> 02:51:56,221
and I now he I bought we had food we ate

3188
02:52:01,671 --> 02:52:00,000
we had fun but I just couldn't I tried

3189
02:52:03,230 --> 02:52:01,681
to get him out of his box that night and

3190
02:52:04,220 --> 02:52:03,240
it just didn't happen it didn't happen

3191
02:52:07,341 --> 02:52:04,230
he was you know

3192
02:52:10,910 --> 02:52:07,351
loose lips sink ships he saw through me

3193
02:52:13,551 --> 02:52:10,920
like a clean piece of glass you know

3194
02:52:16,310 --> 02:52:13,561
exactly what I was trying to do so would

3195
02:52:18,770 --> 02:52:16,320
you show what did you think oh that's

3196
02:52:20,660 --> 02:52:18,780
great you know I really want to know

3197
02:52:22,370 --> 02:52:20,670
more about that document of course of

3198
02:52:24,200 --> 02:52:22,380
the alien interview that would be

3199
02:52:26,660 --> 02:52:24,210
fascinating but you know the first time

3200
02:52:28,761 --> 02:52:26,670
I ever saw Stan Freeman was back in the

3201
02:52:30,801 --> 02:52:28,771
80s I had never heard I wasn't into the

3202
02:52:32,270 --> 02:52:30,811
UFO thing back then and I remember

3203
02:52:34,820 --> 02:52:32,280
turning on Larry King Live and they were

3204
02:52:37,881 --> 02:52:34,830
having a show on Rendlesham and he was

3205
02:52:40,820 --> 02:52:37,891
part of the panel that was talking about

3206
02:52:44,660 --> 02:52:40,830
Rendlesham forest and the incident there

3207
02:52:48,591 --> 02:52:44,670
and there were three of them actually oh

3208
02:52:50,511 --> 02:52:48,601
gosh Penniston was another one and then

3209
02:52:52,970 --> 02:52:50,521
there was someone else too and then

3210
02:52:54,381 --> 02:52:52,980
there was the skeptic guy and he was so

3211
02:52:56,390 --> 02:52:54,391
annoying and I couldn't remember his

3212
02:52:59,150 --> 02:52:56,400
name but you know here are these

3213
02:53:01,160 --> 02:52:59,160
educated credible people with all this

3214
02:53:02,961 --> 02:53:01,170
evidence talking about this thing and

3215
02:53:05,870 --> 02:53:02,971
then there's the skeptic who's sitting

3216
02:53:07,131 --> 02:53:05,880
there just spewing total nonsense and

3217
02:53:09,560 --> 02:53:07,141
doesn't even know what he's talking

3218
02:53:12,261 --> 02:53:09,570
about and that's the first kind of got

3219
02:53:14,060 --> 02:53:12,271
me interested you know what's going on

3220
02:53:15,740 --> 02:53:14,070
here what's this all about and then

3221
02:53:18,591 --> 02:53:15,750
shortly after that the whole bob lazar

3222
02:53:20,091 --> 02:53:18,601
thing broke in 89 so that kind of had me

3223
02:53:23,631 --> 02:53:20,101
hooked and then i had been following it

3224
02:53:25,761 --> 02:53:23,641
ever since here and there so yeah it was

3225
02:53:26,850 --> 02:53:25,771
it was an interesting panel to watch and

3226
02:53:33,390 --> 02:53:26,860
really got my attention

3227
02:53:36,600 --> 02:53:33,400
way back then was it Philip class was

3228
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:36,610
that who the sceptic was you know can

3229
02:53:41,551 --> 02:53:39,010
you physically describe a mustache kind

3230
02:53:44,551 --> 02:53:41,561
of a frumpy old guy looks like he was

3231
02:53:47,100 --> 02:53:44,561
wearing a toupee very nasal type of

3232
02:53:52,140 --> 02:53:47,110
voice very annoying kind of short don't

3233
02:53:57,380 --> 02:53:52,150
be looking to be mean but doesn't really

3234
02:54:04,620 --> 02:53:57,390
fit Phil Phil had glasses and was bald I

3235
02:54:07,560 --> 02:54:04,630
don't remember him having a mustache but

3236
02:54:10,380 --> 02:54:07,570
certainly him and Stanton went

3237
02:54:13,380 --> 02:54:10,390
toe-to-toe many times over the years it

3238
02:54:15,210 --> 02:54:13,390
got ugly it may have been him I might be

3239
02:54:17,160 --> 02:54:15,220
remembering a different skeptic but I

3240
02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:17,170
just remember him being so completely

3241
02:54:21,511 --> 02:54:20,170
annoying that you know I just wanted one

3242
02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:21,521
of one of the guys to haul off and hit

3243
02:54:31,470 --> 02:54:28,930
me terrible maybe Kevin Randall he was

3244
02:54:34,680 --> 02:54:31,480
you know what I bet it's on YouTube yeah

3245
02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:34,690
probably is probably yeah well there you

3246
02:54:37,320 --> 02:54:35,290
go

3247
02:54:40,350 --> 02:54:37,330
anything else on your mind before I run

3248
02:54:42,150 --> 02:54:40,360
credits yeah did you follow up with

3249
02:54:46,140 --> 02:54:42,160
Emery today and talk with him at all I

3250
02:54:49,950 --> 02:54:46,150
did not very very very busy day around

3251
02:54:51,900 --> 02:54:49,960
here on all fronts and so no I did I

3252
02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:51,910
didn't get around to communicating with

3253
02:54:55,710 --> 02:54:54,250
Emery why what should I handle it with a

3254
02:54:57,090 --> 02:54:55,720
little bit of information you're trying

3255
02:55:00,060 --> 02:54:57,100
to wiggle out of him last night

3256
02:55:01,170 --> 02:55:00,070
it's like in your like MRA and you said

3257
02:55:03,450 --> 02:55:01,180
well I'll talk to you tomorrow

3258
02:55:05,160 --> 02:55:03,460
and I think the reason will your

3259
02:55:07,830 --> 02:55:05,170
question was what could you possibly

3260
02:55:09,780 --> 02:55:07,840
disclose that could be more amazing than

3261
02:55:11,730 --> 02:55:09,790
this things you've already told us right

3262
02:55:12,750 --> 02:55:11,740
and he couldn't say and I think the

3263
02:55:14,340 --> 02:55:12,760
reason I don't think he's trying to

3264
02:55:16,890 --> 02:55:14,350
taunt us or anything like that I find

3265
02:55:18,210 --> 02:55:16,900
him extremely credible and honest but he

3266
02:55:20,220 --> 02:55:18,220
was talking about how they have to be

3267
02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:20,230
responsible the only thing that I can

3268
02:55:23,940 --> 02:55:22,330
think of as to why he can't tell us

3269
02:55:26,490 --> 02:55:23,950
whatever it is it's so even more

3270
02:55:28,680 --> 02:55:26,500
extraordinary is because when they

3271
02:55:30,780 --> 02:55:28,690
disclose whatever it is and I can't even

3272
02:55:32,761 --> 02:55:30,790
imagine what it is they don't want to

3273
02:55:35,610 --> 02:55:32,771
frighten people and they have to have

3274
02:55:37,950 --> 02:55:35,620
like a backup to say but we know for

3275
02:55:40,080 --> 02:55:37,960
sure that that they can reassure people

3276
02:55:40,700 --> 02:55:40,090
but it's not going to like not only blow

3277
02:55:43,160 --> 02:55:40,710
their minds

3278
02:55:45,050 --> 02:55:43,170
frighten the public so I think I can

3279
02:55:46,880 --> 02:55:45,060
think of us why they can't say certain

3280
02:55:49,910 --> 02:55:46,890
things yeah that's that's a possibility

3281
02:55:51,440 --> 02:55:49,920
I don't think I'm comfortable just like

3282
02:55:54,650 --> 02:55:51,450
Stanton sent and I don't think we would

3283
02:55:57,020 --> 02:55:54,660
freak the public out you know what would

3284
02:55:59,690 --> 02:55:57,030
freak the public out not that et is here

3285
02:56:01,400 --> 02:55:59,700
but that there's a fleet of battle

3286
02:56:03,469 --> 02:56:01,410
cruisers on their way to Planet Earth

3287
02:56:04,880 --> 02:56:03,479
and we've got five years to say goodbye

3288
02:56:06,110 --> 02:56:04,890
to our loved ones because they're gonna

3289
02:56:08,960 --> 02:56:06,120
come here blow up the planet

3290
02:56:12,770 --> 02:56:08,970
now that would freak everybody out but

3291
02:56:15,560 --> 02:56:12,780
the college of ET being here or visiting

3292
02:56:19,330 --> 02:56:15,570
and you know what whatever crash saucers

3293
02:56:21,170 --> 02:56:19,340
we've got ET in jail right now and we're

3294
02:56:24,980 --> 02:56:21,180
waterboarding them that's not gonna

3295
02:56:26,510 --> 02:56:24,990
freaking I just want the technology to

3296
02:56:28,280 --> 02:56:26,520
hurry up and be disclosed because we

3297
02:56:30,469 --> 02:56:28,290
need to do the life extension so that

3298
02:56:32,420 --> 02:56:30,479
Stanton's around into his hundreds

3299
02:56:35,360 --> 02:56:32,430
because mine's like that we can't afford

3300
02:56:37,070 --> 02:56:35,370
to lose and I'm afraid of loot like with

3301
02:56:38,719 --> 02:56:37,080
William Hawkins I just want the older

3302
02:56:40,969 --> 02:56:38,729
people they have all this knowledge like

3303
02:56:42,710 --> 02:56:40,979
Linda Moulton Howe and we want to hang

3304
02:56:44,180 --> 02:56:42,720
on to those people so if they're gonna

3305
02:56:46,490 --> 02:56:44,190
do this life extension they need to

3306
02:56:50,710 --> 02:56:46,500
hurry it up yeah you know I'm so

3307
02:56:55,880 --> 02:56:50,720
appreciative my my time with Stanton

3308
02:57:00,160 --> 02:56:55,890
probably probably four or five maybe six

3309
02:57:03,469 --> 02:57:00,170
times I was able to literally sit

3310
02:57:04,969 --> 02:57:03,479
shoulder-to-shoulder with them for a

3311
02:57:08,450 --> 02:57:04,979
couple of hours at a stretch

3312
02:57:11,030 --> 02:57:08,460
alone you know and just sit and talk you

3313
02:57:14,030 --> 02:57:11,040
know just sit just sit and rap and and

3314
02:57:16,850 --> 02:57:14,040
I've actually been able to do that and

3315
02:57:19,910 --> 02:57:16,860
I'm just I'll cherish that forever you

3316
02:57:23,719 --> 02:57:19,920
know and I'm just so thankful and and

3317
02:57:27,140 --> 02:57:23,729
that you know he's 84 and that

3318
02:57:30,980 --> 02:57:27,150
conversation that we just had that that

3319
02:57:35,300 --> 02:57:30,990
was with the that wasn't the 84 year old

3320
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:35,310
mind that we perceived to be 84 my mom's

3321
02:57:38,750 --> 02:57:37,170
84 and let me tell you it's like night

3322
02:57:41,330 --> 02:57:38,760
and day between talking to her and

3323
02:57:45,050 --> 02:57:41,340
talking to Stanton Friedman it's like I

3324
02:57:48,320 --> 02:57:45,060
so sharp right right right yeah I'm 55

3325
02:57:49,670 --> 02:57:48,330
I'm 55 and I'm not that sharp so there

3326
02:57:51,610 --> 02:57:49,680
you go and you're looking anywhere

3327
02:57:54,350 --> 02:57:51,620
looking spell Jimmy yeah

3328
02:57:57,020 --> 02:57:54,360
you know hey I've lost a little weight

3329
02:57:58,850 --> 02:57:57,030
and I feel better I do I feel great what

3330
02:58:00,440 --> 02:57:58,860
a great diet I gotta get out of here

3331
02:58:01,340 --> 02:58:00,450
roll credits tab I'll see you tomorrow

3332
02:58:03,980 --> 02:58:01,350
night okay

3333
02:58:04,970 --> 02:58:03,990
absolutely take care Jimmy have a great

3334
02:58:17,090 --> 02:58:04,980
night

3335
02:58:19,310 --> 02:58:17,100
Stanton Friedman that's all that's all

3336
02:58:23,300 --> 02:58:19,320
cool it's been great

3337
02:58:26,420 --> 02:58:23,310
tomorrow night Barry Littleton is here

3338
02:58:30,860 --> 02:58:26,430
Barry Littleton now not only as he had a

3339
02:58:34,070 --> 02:58:30,870
life of contact but his experiences and

3340
02:58:36,860 --> 02:58:34,080
his contact going through to today are

3341
02:58:39,950 --> 02:58:36,870
all extraordinary but it goes beyond

3342
02:58:43,700 --> 02:58:39,960
that there is a reason why Barry

3343
02:58:44,810 --> 02:58:43,710
Littleton is here for day 3 of UFO week

3344
02:58:46,310 --> 02:58:44,820
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3345
02:58:49,730 --> 02:58:46,320
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3346
02:58:51,410 --> 02:58:49,740
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3347
02:58:53,540 --> 02:58:51,420
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3348
02:58:55,820 --> 02:58:53,550
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3356
02:59:23,400 --> 02:59:18,930
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3357
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:23,410
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3358
02:59:28,980 --> 02:59:26,800
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3359
02:59:30,450 --> 02:59:28,990
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3360
02:59:32,850 --> 02:59:30,460
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3361
02:59:34,429 --> 02:59:32,860
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3362
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3365
02:59:44,640 --> 02:59:41,601
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3366
02:59:46,871 --> 02:59:44,650
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3367
02:59:50,400 --> 02:59:46,881
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3368
02:59:52,730 --> 02:59:50,410
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3369
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